Lightning Process - discussion thread

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic theories and treatments discussions' started by Barry, Sep 19, 2018.

  1. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Lightning Process- is CFS/ME psychological or physical?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiNiJvT_rYE




    So, Phil fully acknowledges ME is wholly physiological ... but feels he needs to remind people how the LP can fix all that very nicely for you. Clear up some misconceptions ... :rolleyes: :sick:

    ETA: Is this even legal? @dave30th
     
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  2. Wonko

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    He may be getting confused by the fact that the 2 'opposing' words/terms have some of the same letters in, well that and it's remotely possible that his business model is introducing some trifling bias.
     
  3. Hoopoe

    Hoopoe Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Poor Phil will regret being unambiguous and not vague. Once someone bothers to actually look at physiology before and after LP.
     
  4. Andy

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    Don't forget, if you have a YouTube (and or Google account) you should be able to downvote this crap.
     
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    NelliePledge Moderator Staff Member

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    Ditto. And his other vids while I was there. What a creep
     
  8. Invisible Woman

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    Sorry, but in my book someone who continuously retrains as lots of different things is either:

    Training in cr@p things that don't work and feels the need to keep offering ither cr@p to keep clients coming back

    Or

    Is cr@p at lots of things.

    It certainly doesn't mean the person is any good, or even experienced at delivering any of those things, even if one believes any of the things he's trained in works.
     
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    Ditto.

    And commented about snake oil salesman.
     
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    Something has clearly happened in the UK to prompt them both doing this. UK parliament? NICE guideline stuff? I did think that as the NICE guidelines started the consultation process that we’d see jockeying for position among third parties who catered to ME/CFS.
     
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    I'd think it's the guidelines that they are concerned about. They want their magic treatments to be included in the review so as to give them a veneer of respectability, their worst result is if they weren't included at all.
     
  13. NelliePledge

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    Yes eye to main chance of trying to divert some of the CBT gravy train their way
     
  14. EzzieD

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    Well, maybe what Parker says about the brain being able to change the physiology is true, because my physiology felt like it was going to upchuck my lunch after my brain observed those videos, whereas prior to watching them, I didn't feel like that.
    That does sound a likely motive.
     
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    For Gupta and Parker, the disease is neither phys nor psych. It's financial, to their benefit.
     
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    Maybe they have a bad case of mammonitis?
     
  18. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Does this video still count as a form of advertising? Irrespective whether it does in law, it most certainly is in practice. And must surely breach the issues previously addressed by the ASA? It's so blatant. If not covered by the ASA, could it be addressed directly to YouTube on the basis of recent concerns about false information on social media, using the ASA ruling as evidence?
     
  19. Philipp

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    So he is more or less explicitly advertising his weird unstable current mechanism thingy as being helpful in conditions psychological and physiological however they may be defined. Interesting.
     
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