Maeve Boothby O'Neill - articles about her life, death and inquest

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  1. MrMagoo

    MrMagoo Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    TPN would only be offered if she was sectioned
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    There are still Drs all over the NHS who think it’s psychological and Dr Strain has had frank conversations with them
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    @Paul Keeble on twitter doing a good job on tweeting updates from the Inquest.
     
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    This one isn’t very clear. Dr Strain was seen as the lead but has no nutrition knowledge
    Psych said it isn’t a terminal condition
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    “Not sure if the press is here today but some firecrackers towards the NHS about lack of provision”
    “Sarah Boothby commenting on various consultants but Dr Strain being the lead but being overruled”
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    Sounds like a complete shambles. (The hospital not the inquest)
     
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    Yup, the picture of different people making different decisions, or not making decisions, is building. We’re getting some idea of the “passed from pillar to post”
     
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    Ironic...
     
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    Yes I was racking my brain for that phrase. Thanks
     
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    Do any of the articles make note that the same thing is happening right now with at least 2 other women that we know of? Because this is the kind of thing they need to point out in the same articles, and it adds a lot of time pressure to the reporting, which makes for a good story. It's sad that we need a "good story" for editors to be interested, but this is the world we live in, PR over human rights.

    I very much doubt that the reporters will find that information on their own.
     
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    That a patient died from a condition that isn't terminal makes it so much worse. I assume whoever said that thinks it makes it better. It makes it 100x worse, it means the death was purely the result of negligence.

    And this isn't the first one, so there is precedent that is also being ignored, which means lessons aren't learned, which also makes it such a clear case of criminal negligence. All on the backdrop of the NICE guideline that now cover this but are firmly rejected on arbitrary excuses. They arrived a bit too late to help Maeve, although that's entirely on the delay, and that makes that rejection look so much worse given that they never actually needed specialist knowledge anyway, they only had to not be rigidly dogmatic and do their damn job.

    It never ceases to amaze the stuff that comes out of these people's mouths and how they rarely seen to consider the full implication of what they're saying. It makes it so clear that their behavior is 100% at fault and that they know it, but they almost boast about it because they're doing exactly what is expected of them.

    Plus it shows how unserious the medical profession is about respect for mental illness, that they are willing to let patients die because of their own internal beliefs that it isn't important enough for them to care.
     
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    P Keeble is crashing so won’t report much more today (hardly surprising this would take a toll on anyone)
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    “Maeve asked about contingency plan for if NG doesn’t work, on 28 June. It seems there was none”

    I will look around twitter for snapshots of the inquest. Apparently Dr Weir is up this afternoon.
     
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    (Keeping in mind that an article about Maeve was also posted to the /r/medicine sub-reddit and it was quickly locked down after lots of very negative commentary, so reactions will vary)
     
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    No time for Dr Weir today, he will be up tomorrow morning.
     
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    From written evidence, GP Dr Shenton
    “I don’t believe I can put ME on the death certificate because many of the Drs involved do not believe ME is a medical condition”
    “Multidisciplinary was installed too late. Everything was too late”
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    PA article about today's inquest via the Belfast Telegraph. Includes some details of David Strain's testimony:

    https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/...-specialist-beds-for-patients/a901025462.html

    Some good quotes here:
    This is interesting:
    I wonder how they've changed their management of it?
     
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    The Telegraph guy said he was likely to be at the inquest for the whole thing. Not sure how many other reporters were listening online today--I assume a batch. But fewer in the courtroom--just a couple.
     
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    Apparently starts at 9.30am tomorrow
     
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    I believe in his evidence he said pwS/VS ME get a side room with black out curtains automatically plus there has been specific S/VS ME training for nurses
    Perhaps the Drs and Consultants could get that training too?
     
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