Malic acid supplement, sumac

jnmaciuch said:
[Edit: @MeSci perhaps this will be helpful for you—maybe the trick to avoiding the brain fog side effect is taking sumac right before you’re going to be on your feet/physically active]
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Thanks, @jnmaciuch, but I think the brain fog wasn't so much a side-effect as - well - 'normal'.

I usually take it about an hour before activity, and I don't do it very often at the moment.
 
I get energy from apple but not any apple just the yellow apple
And I think that this effect (just I think) I start getting it after supplementing acetyl l Carnitine
So I think acetyl + yellow apple
If it just malic acid why I don't get energy from other apple or from acid vinegar
I need to try sumac
I search a lot in reddit found others get energy from apple , someone get energy from combining picans and apples and he get no energy if trying any one of them only
, last thing about dopamine medications I have vere severe cfs 0 energy and severe muscle weakness and fatigue taking low dose quetiapine will get red of the muscle weakness and fatigue and a lot of nervous system symptoms
Like abiliy to tolerate heat
And reduce my light and sound sensitivity
In the other hand abilify affect me more mentally less physically
 
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Snow Leopard said:
People are trying this in tablet form (eg Source naturals brand) rather than powder form right?
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This is the tablet brand I took over 25 years ago that might have helped me at the time. It didn't last, but for 6 weeks I almost felt normal.

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I took this supplement during my PVFS stage. I wasn't experiencing delayed PEM during that time period of time.
 
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I’ve gotten some follow up from two of the people who contacted me saying the sumac/malic acid worked for them—they are continuing to experience consistent positive effects ~3 months out. One of them is on ADHD stimulants, the other is not (and is the only non-stimulant responder so far).

I’m still experiencing the same effect too, no apparent changes in my response to the same dosages.

I have not received any more private messages from anybody who has tried it.
 
Snow Leopard said:
As I suspected, the local place is taking forever to ship which means they're coming from the USA first... It was a similar price than ordering direct so...
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I'm in Australia and I got malic acid in powder form from a home brew company selling it on eBay. very cheap compared to tablets albeit with a delivery fee. I got 200g for $18 or so.

This might sound weird but I absolutely love it. I add a pinch, maybe a quarter of a gram ,to 500mL of water along with some salt (salt water for POTS) and it is delicious. I've added it to food as well. Obviously this is not a blinded experiment and i'm not sure i'm even taking it for any medicinal properties any more, I just love that sour kick. Although one theory is our bodies crave what they lack so maybe there's something there?!
 
Murph said:
I'm in Australia and I got malic acid in powder form from a home brew company selling it on eBay. very cheap compared to tablets albeit with a delivery fee. I got 200g for $18 or so.

This might sound weird but I absolutely love it. I add a pinch, maybe a quarter of a gram ,to 500mL of water along with some salt (salt water for POTS) and it is delicious. I've added it to food as well. Obviously this is not a blinded experiment and i'm not sure i'm even taking it for any medicinal properties any more, I just love that sour kick. Although one theory is our bodies crave what they lack so maybe there's something there?!
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That’s fascinating! I have noticed that I start craving that sumac taste when I haven’t taken my tablet in a while.

Do you get a craving for acidicity from citrus fruits too or is it just malic acid?
 
Murph said:
I'm in Australia and I got malic acid in powder form from a home brew company selling it on eBay. very cheap compared to tablets albeit with a delivery fee. I got 200g for $18 or so.

This might sound weird but I absolutely love it. I add a pinch, maybe a quarter of a gram ,to 500mL of water along with some salt (salt water for POTS) and it is delicious. I've added it to food as well. Obviously this is not a blinded experiment and i'm not sure i'm even taking it for any medicinal properties any more, I just love that sour kick. Although one theory is our bodies crave what they lack so maybe there's something there?!
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I crave sumac so I've certainly wondered about that too.
 
jnmaciuch said:
That’s fascinating! I have noticed that I start craving that sumac taste when I haven’t taken my tablet in a while.

Do you get a craving for acidicity from citrus fruits too or is it just malic acid?
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I really enjoy a sour orange but not so much a sweet orange. I've always had a fondness for lemon-flavoured cakes and tarts and gelati. I like green apples too, but I can't isolate a deitary fondness for malic acid !
 
jnmaciuch said:
I’ve gotten some follow up from two of the people who contacted me saying the sumac/malic acid worked for them—they are continuing to experience consistent positive effects ~3 months out. One of them is on ADHD stimulants, the other is not (and is the only non-stimulant responder so far).

I’m still experiencing the same effect too, no apparent changes in my response to the same dosages.

I have not received any more private messages from anybody who has tried it.
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Got my hands on some malic acid today, 2.5g tablets. I am not expecting it to do anything but I have never had it before so will see how it goes.
 
Holinger said:
Got my hands on some malic acid today, 2.5g tablets. I am not expecting it to do anything but I have never had it before so will see how it goes.
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Interested to hear if it does anything for you!

Just a heads up, I was getting heartburn at doses above 400mg. If it’s possible to cut down on the amount in the tablet it might be worthwhile to start smaller just in case!
 
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