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ME/CFS European Comparison Survey - SmartSurvey. Professor Derek Pheby 2020

Discussion in 'General ME/CFS news' started by John Mac, Oct 20, 2020.

  1. John Mac

    John Mac Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/GX4HMU/

    I took the survey and it did only take 10 minutes.
    Wanted to know your symptoms, medications and treatments.

    https://me-pedia.org/wiki/Derek_Pheby
     
  2. Tia

    Tia Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I've started this. There's a question that says,

    How many investigations of your ME/CFS (blood tests, X-rays, scans, etc.) have you had?

    How many blood tests? I'm not sure I know. I've been ill for a long time.
     
  3. ME/CFS Skeptic

    ME/CFS Skeptic Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Thanks for posting this.
    Agree that this is not a good question.

    Also: question 19 and 20 are the same
     
  4. Tia

    Tia Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I think I'd need more information about who the authors are and how they will be using the data before I complete this.
     
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  5. It's M.E. Linda

    It's M.E. Linda Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I replied, along the lines of:

    ‘Blood tests only - no idea, but at a very rough guess, 20 over 19 years?’

    Also. One Q did not allow a N/A answer (to do with an employer).

    I left the answer blank and used the next free format box to add, roughly:

    Q xx:

    “My answer would be N/A because I was dismissed from my career due to medically evidenced incapacity to work“

    @Tom Kindlon are you able to supply any extra information for @Tia please?
     
  6. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Derek Phebe has been responsible for high quality epidemiological work in ME and was involved in the setting up of the UK ME Biobank and EUROMENE (his idea). From my perspective he is the most trustworthy ME researcher in the UK, entirely committed to a biomedical approach.

    Unfortunately, the link does not give us any information about other people involved or what the project's objectives are, as far as I can see. I think it would be good to see that. That leaves some uncertainty However, if Latvia is involved it will be Uldis Berkis, who I believe has a similar approach to Phebe's.
     
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    Hoopoe Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The Italian members of EUROMENE are trustworthy in my opinion.
     
  8. Kitty

    Kitty Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    It is odd that it assumes everyone is employed – it doesn't even allow the possibility that people are retired, let alone struggling along on benefits. I just ticked 'neither agree nor disagree'.
     
  9. Tia

    Tia Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Thank you, that's good to know.
     
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  10. Mithriel

    Mithriel Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    He wanted to do research asking people with ME what symptoms they actually experienced as that was the only way to find out what the illness actually was. He was refused and the money given to the PACE trial instead.
     
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  11. Invisible Woman

    Invisible Woman Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Ah.. I read that differently. I thought it meant how many of the different types of investigations you had rather than the number of each.

    So I have had blood tests and naff all else.

    It is possible if I kept turning up like a bad penny they might have been persuaded to do a scan or something but then it's more likely I'd have ended up being pushed down the CBT/GET route.

    So it's as much about the balance I sought in protecting myself from the health system and seeking help from it.
     
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  12. Tia

    Tia Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Oh I see. That does make more sense! Although I don't think the question's clear.

    I did have an MRI of my brain and various scans to rule out gynaecological issues. Plus hundreds of blood tests. Can't think of anything else... Never had an xray.
     
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