Miranda Hart - British comedian

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  1. Trish

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    I did wonder whether the LP/OptimumHealth people use the rice-goes-bad-if-you-insult-it story as a gullibility test to see whether potential clients are suitably gullible to believe the 'science' they are telling their clients to justify their methods.
     
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    Hey, maybe this is the key piece to develop artificial general intelligence. It's very hard to be able to discern deeper meanings from language. Especially things like tone and mood, being able to tell that someone is being mean or sarcastic for example.

    If rice can do it. Imagine the possibilities!
     
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    That would make sense. Like the spam test.

    Who the hell falls for spam? It's filled with mistakes and weird language. And that's on purpose, because they want to hook the fishes who fall for the opening line with enough certainty that they can be brought in the boat. They don't want to waste time on a mark who won't convert.

    You know, you really lit up something here. Why the description and language used in psychosomatic ideology is so damn weird and unrelatable. At least it is to me, who would never fall for it. Makes sense. A con is a con and the base techniques are the same. They have to be weird. On purpose.
     
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    Any cult/MLM/con artist will lead people up a path, and after a good halfway through they “jump the shark” and say something ridiculous. By which time, someone is in too deep to realise how bonkers it sounds. That’s why when we hear about it in isolation (aka verbally abused rice decays faster) we identify it easily as ludicrous. A bit of NLP as well. Anything which needs extensive explanation which can’t be distilled to a sentence or two is usually a lie.
     
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    Miranda just appeared on 'Strictly come dancing" (UK BBC1 TV program).

    I'll try and find a link
     
  6. Lou B Lou

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    Miranda Hart's publicists working overtime as usual. That clip is to fuel media and fan speculation that Miranda will perform in Strictly Come Dancing next year. There were several press stories speculating, 'will she won't she' for a few weeks recently.

    Miranda's publicity machine still going like the clappers.

    The video of Miranda Hart 'spontaneously' appearing at a Strictly rehearsal with her co star Sarah Hadland is in this article. Melodramatic or what?



    November 2nd at 8.36:

    'BBC Strictly Come Dancing fans 'crying' as two sitcom legends reunite in unexpected twist'

    'Strictly Come Dancing viewers were left in tears on Saturday night as two former sitcom stars were reunited on-screen during the live show'

    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/tv/bbc-strictly-come-dancing-fans-30285805



    The momentous national non-event will probably be all over the rest of the papers tomorrow.

    The Press whipping up speculation about Miranda doing Strictly next year:

    'Miranda Hart could be the first contestant to sign up for Strictly Come Dancing 2025, according to an expert'

    https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1967050/miranda-hart-eyes-up-strictly-come-dancing-2025



    And more (Rare appearance? she's been all over the press, tv, radio etc for weeks):

    'Miranda Hart makes rare appearance as she reunites with co-star at Strictly'
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/miranda-hart-makes-rare-appearance-34024070

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  7. Lou B Lou

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    Miranda Hart still misrepresenting ME in interviews:


    1st November on 'This Morning' TV program

    https://twitter.com/user/status/1852351021244125242



    Tweet:
    'Miranda on ITV This morning talking about how she got Lyme Disease when she was 14/15 but not an acute version and ended up with "a kind of ME picture of fatigue based condition".'

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    I can't work out why is this thought to be news. I mean...why would anybody even bother to read to the end of the first sentence of an article, let alone give a flying you-know-what about it, with the world in the state it's in?

    Not Miranda Hart, of course (I don't really know who she is tbh), I mean a TV show where half the people look as if they've been assaulted with that orange stuff you spray on fences?
     
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    I'm not sure that's a fair comparison. Miranda has been in several very popular TV series. The British media treats her as a major celebrity as a result, and if I remember correctly she has been a Strictly 'superfan' for years. Even without her book to sell her publicist would ensure she had ongoing media appearances.
     
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    She was always going to pop up on Strictly if Sarah stayed in, because Sarah is mostly recognised from Miranda’s show. And Strictly isn’t for me but it is easily one of the most-watched tv shows in the UK.
     
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    Miranda on instagram today:

    'Since working again (a very little bit at a time) I have been able to live out the treasures from my book. And they all were relevant in every moment. And necessary. And reminded me more than ever of Treasure 9 - there will always be a “setback”. Or rather, trust the ups and downs.

    I think in some ways I expected to be fully healed when I went back to work. Or fully energised. Or fully fit. Or fully happy with my body post illness. Or all the ways it’s easy to want to have ‘sorted’. But I have seen clearly that life is not to sort yourself out and wait for the time you are complete and ready. Life is living in acceptance of all the mess and vulnerability and illness and tiredness and confusion. The more I do that the more joy I have. And the more trust. (Despite still getting fatigued)

    To finally let go of ‘needing to be okay’ in whatever form the inner critic can tell us we need to be, means I can be okay. Even when I feel terrible. (Though I fail regularly and often still just want to be fully physically okay!)

    Thank God for the licence to be a weird and wonderful wonky work in progress until the day I die!'
     
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    Well that would explain the orange lighting then.

    Orange combines the physical energy and stimulation of red with the cheerfulness of yellow.
     
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    Despite the problems with her book, I wish Miranda well, and hope she's not over exerting herself.
     
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    The thing is

    she is perfectly allowed to say what it’s like for her and if she wants to go back and try muddling through but still feels awful etc then she would connect far better if she just says that

    I don’t know why the pseudo philosophical tone though. That makes it different- it’s beliefs and therefore isn’t about ‘her’ just for ‘her’

    I don’t know the reasons she’s gone into this mode. Whether it’s the brain training. Or whether she feels awkward made to feel dirty almost as we all are for talking about feeling crap and unreliable and your body letting you down and so is using this to talk on the more general but by doing so is indeed not realising she’s communicating societies’ judgement (get on with it and put up with it and don’t go in about it) almost as advice or worse some revelation as if it is making her better ‘because otherwise she’d miss out’

    it’s a shame because it’s early days for her to be going so public and there’s a much more interesting story to tell and she’d be so good at it in being honest and frank. We all go through these dilemmas of no one is going to compromise so do you miss out on that important thing or hurt yourself doing it and that creates insightful situations in themselves it would be wonderful to have a comedian shedding light on. How brilliantly she would do a sketch about just being desperate for a chair or eventually having to hide lying down in the car then lie about where you’ve been ‘to be polite’ , not being able to write a thank you note on time because you are so ill from it all.

    but that’s to me , and there are too many healthy people I know who just ‘don’t like the sick thing’ even if it’s not the main topic

    If she’s not going to be incredibly brave and go down this route then society and definitely the strictly type thing feels like it will ‘acknowledge illness and disability’ but there must be a triumph over adversity or recovery angle to it. Inspire the others after all. And apparently we aren’t there yet on redefining well what that inspiring looks like for our types of condition
     
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    I worry that she’s brain trained herself a bit better (I’m being glib, you know what I mean) and she’s launched into the work which goes with promoting a book, doing media and she’s probably knackered. She’s also had a bit of a backlash which won’t help her mood. I don’t doubt she’s finding things tough. She is also somewhat still shilling her book though…who knows. Is there a shift to reframing these “treasures” as acceptance rather than cure? Or is it all a cynical pre-Xmas book cash-in. Time May tell.
     
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    "But I have seen clearly that life is not to sort yourself out and wait for the time you are complete and ready. Life is living in acceptance of all the mess and vulnerability and illness and tiredness and confusion."
    This makes me feel such a failure. Like I'm being CBT'd at. If she had written, But I have seen clearly that MY life is not to sort....etc., I wouldn't feel nearly so diminished by her.
     
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    Not sure if it helps, but it makes me pity her she has only just realised this at her big age.
     
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    @Naomi10 sums things up brilliantly and as always in a wise and compassionate matter:

    A life hidden - The Trouble With Recovery Stories

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    When I look back on the long and painful road of my own improvement, I see a truth rarely addressed in recovery stories. Which is that our bleakest times form the foundation of every step forward we ever make. The courage that exists in that place of sheer survival is at the root of every achievement that follows – even if the achievement is “just” living the best life possible within huge restrictions.

    To anyone in that darkness now – where hope is destroyed and all appears lost – I say this: never feel that your struggle to exist is not enough. If all you can do today is breathe and cling on, that is an act of courage and daring. And one worthy of all the column inches in the world.

    https://alifehidden.com/2024/11/05/recovery-stories/
     
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    Thank you @Naomi10 i will share this on my Facebook, Miranda was mentioned at a family social event. I didn’t feel able to comment other than to say she’s doing a lot of publicity for her book as I didn’t want to get into specifics of the messaging. Hopefully some will read your excellent blog and get an idea of the complexity. :hug:
     
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    It doesn't sound as those she's well at all. She's been told by these grifters to believe she's "post illness" but she isn't. It's desperately sad.
     
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