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  1. Sly Saint

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    Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome NICE guideline: stakeholder review
    Published 5 July 2022
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    Healthcare Quality and Improvement Directorate
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    Health and social care
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    9781804354872
    report at link
    https://www.gov.scot/publications/r...itis-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-nice-guideline/
     
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    The report is quite useful. They point out that the refusal of clinicians to accept the new NICE GLs emphasises their scepticism towards pwME. In other words, those who refuse to use the new GLs are continuing their gaslighting of us.

    They also point out that the clinicians who complain about GET being removed seem to conflate GET with any intervention based on activity (including pacing). Which goes to show how ill informed they are.

    There's some low-key shade being thrown in there.
     
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    And want to remain.
     
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    ABrokenBattery on Twitter quoting Maree Todd MSP, Minister for Public Health, Women’s Health and Sport:

    "I want this stigma and disbelief to end. The Scottish Government is fully supportive of the NICE guideline, and the accompanying implementation statement." Independently produced stakeholder review of the NICE guideline."

    Report available as a PDF https://t.co/frUGNyzXe3 / Twitter
    "A few of the clinicians involved didn't seem to understand PEM or how the evidence was reviewed. Good to hear the guideline was supported despite there ignorance. Another positive step." https://t.co/2jnuQNxGZq / Twitter
    The Scottish Government (2022), Report on a Scottish stakeholder review of the Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/ Chronic Fatigue Syndrome NICE guideline, https://www.gov.scot/publications/r...itis-chronic-fatigue-syndrome-nice-guideline/

    Thank you to MEAction Scotland and everyone involved.
     
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    In other words, they are (still) part of the problem, not the solution.
     
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    You can't implement the guidelines without prior staff education
    To do otherwise is to risk perpetuating harm
     
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    I don't think this has been posted. The Chief Scientist Office of the Scottish Government is funding another GET trial that isn't GET.

    CISCO-21 Prevent and Treat Long COVID-19. (CISCO-21)
    https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04900961

    A personalised, resistance-based exercise intervention for patients during the convalescence phase in-hospital through to 3-months post-discharge, a duration reflecting chronic, maintenance treatment studies. To maximise enrolment of eligible patients, the intervention may be initiated in-hospital or in the community post-discharge. Resistance bands may be used according to the exercise guideline.​

    And I think this is another arm:
    The exercise regimens are generic and designed not to require expert physiotherapy input, therefore, the availability of NHS physiotherapists, which may be at times limited, will not be a barrier to implementation​

    What count are we at? Has it reached 1,000 trials? I'm pretty sure it must have. They're all identical other than superficial differences. Complete systemic dysfunction.
     
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    £6m needed to tackle ME crisis as patients demand action over long covid fears
    features @Emsho and her mum
    https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/6m-needed-tackle-crisis-patients-28069473
     
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    Belle and Sebastian singer: Living with ME makes me feel like a ‘non-person’
    https://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co...ian-singer-living-makes-feel-like-non-person/
     
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    SNP ministers accused of turning their backs on Scots suffering from ME

    https://www.scotsman.com/news/polit...heir-backs-on-scots-suffering-from-me-3971633
     
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    I watched part of the debate. Well done to MEAction Scotland for their work on getting this to happen. It sounds like there is some progress towards getting better services, but there's a long way to go.
     
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    Debate on ME Services : Scottish Parliament 2 Feb 2023


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