4/28/25, Long COVID Clinical Podcast:
“Innovative Research with Dr. Amal Amer”
‘..Andrew Schamess and Anita Chopra discuss recent research on Long COVID at Ohio State University. They are joined by Dr. Amal Amer, a Professor of Microbial Infection and Immunity, and Dr. Heba Amer, who works in Dr. Amal's lab. Dr. Amal shares her personal experience with Long COVID and details her research on the inflammasome and caspase-4/11, proteins linked to severe inflammation and cognitive issues in Long COVID.'
Dr. Amer: “I thought I recovered, but when I went back to work, I realized I couldn’t understand the papers that I had to read. I couldn’t put my ideas together..or type an email..when my students were presenting their data, I couldn’t follow..I realized something was really wrong.."
Dr. Amer: "It feels like the cytokines have gone rogue..."
Host: "What are you able to tell us about your findings so far?"
Dr. Heba Amer: "What I believe that I can say, using the experiment designs that we've laid out, we have been able to see and prove that Long COVID mice really do have very, very distinctive differences in their behavior and their cognitive functions than mice who have never been to exposed to Long COVID...we're pretty excited about our findings so far, and we hope to get it published relatively soon.."
Dr. Amal Amer: "I think this is a major finding in the field....you lose the ability to do sequential steps in your brain to achieve something...this is what this amazing machine does, so the mouse has to do sequential steps...we focused on sequential thinking, remembering...even in the mouse model, you can see they cannot process sequential thinking and deep thinking to achieve something...I hope this paper will help researchers everywhere..."
Host: "..one of the great mysteries in post-COVID, is what is happening now? Why are these symptoms still persisting and what the pathophysiology is...it is so frustrating to be speaking with someone dealing with these symptoms and not have a firm answer...I think the solution for this illness is to nail down the pathophysiology..."
Dr. Amal Amer: "..we are fortunate in Ohio State there are several biobanks, many of them were collecting samples during the pandemic, we have a lot of samples of the acute form...for the samples of Long COVID...there was a huge initiative from the NIH to collect samples from acute and Long COVID patients and they have thousands of samples...you can apply for these samples to continue the work your doing..."