Paul Garner on Long Covid and ME/CFS - BMJ articles and other media.

Well, he's been spotted prowling outside. Hopefully the locks will hold.

I might replace "reprehensible" with "slightly tragic attention-seeking" though.

 

Spellcheck: The woof.

 

Garner has been banned from the Long Covid Apheresis Community facebook group after a community vote.

 

Right, because why would he need apheresis after all, if he is all recovered?

 

Has there been any sign of him complaining or whinging or tweeting about this?

 

Suspect most of us have blocked him for the benefit of our sanity! But, I’ve taken one for the team and had a look..

He’s retweeted/entered a few convos about microclots (obviously, nothing positive about them) including some piece written by Deb Cohen, who, I think was the BBC journalist who had him on Newsnight and Natalie Shure who I recall wrote some god-awful piece on ME or LC recently.

So, perhaps this is him limbering up to more gnashing of teeth about activist/militant patients shutting him down and it’s those pesky ME folks that are leading the charge to have him cancelled - or some-such bilge.

 

And others, apparently. I guess word of mouth got around.

I remember Vogt tried this a few times on Reddit. It did not go well.

It's truly amazing how these people can be so delusional about how they are perceived. They'll still go around thinking that the right patients like their stuff. You know, the ones who would have recovered anyway. It's really staggering the dept of this ideology, how perverse it can be.

 

Given his recent Cochrane review, likely trying to badmouth the community. Probably in the Norwegian press, or something like that. Do a bit like what Afflicted did to the participants. That was truly revolting stuff.

 

I'd worry about something like this, picking out comments or behaviors then refer to his observations generally.

 

Im sure this will be ascribed to militancy and evil ME activists. The militants with transnational tentacles and the ability to browbeat public health organizations, governments, academics, and Nobel winners. It couldn’t be that Garner is actually wrong.

 

Paul Garner has indeed been touting his free speech credentials:
https://www.livpost.co.uk/p/tinker-tailor-teacher-spy-the-liverpool

Sending death threats is absolutely unacceptable, and it's quite wrong (and illegal) for anyone to have made physical threats against Professor Garner or anyone else. That is not part of academic free speech or any other kind of free speech.

I agree with Professor Garner that researchers should have 'unrestricted liberty' to question established ideas and theories. I hope, then, he will agree that it was disappointing that JNNP decided to take down a plainly worded but perfectly legal Rapid Response questioning the ideas and theories put forward in the article to which he put his name.

 

Sure but I'll freely say that I don't care. It has nothing to do with us. At all. Not even one bit. Blaming a community of millions on the behavior of a few is despicable behavior. It's wrong in every single way.

Just as we shouldn't blame the entire medical community for his own misbehavior, and that of his fellow fanatics, even though it applies far more since many of them choose to exert coercive power over us while the rest, at least, tacitly approve by doing nothing about it. Even though they are technically supposed to.

Lots of people get abuse, even death threats, on a regular basis and generally for ridiculous reasons. I'm sorry but this is completely irrelevant and he is fully in control of the abuse he gets. He is deliberately antagonizing the entire patient population by being insulting, by goading this abuse with clear purpose, that he and his fellow quacks then use, as here, to excuse their own immoral pursuit.

It justifies nothing but, again, literally has nothing to do with us. We are not an organization, an institution or anything like that. This is mindless bleating used to excuse his horrible behavior and I don't care one bit if he feels bad about it. Which he probably doesn't, if the precedent of the PACE ideologues is any indication.

Receipt for how much they don't even care and it doesn't affect their lives one bit:

 

If these 'researchers' abi1ity to reason is so poor that they equate past vio1ence by activists that required 'new terror 1aws' with comp1aints to the GMC then quite frank1y I don't want them app1ying themse1ves to researching my medica1 condition...

 

His thread goes on and on and on . . .

https://twitter.com/user/status/1707430138110005514

 

Give me strength.....