Paul Garner on Long Covid and ME/CFS - BMJ articles and other media.

I note Jon Stone is talking. If I remember rightly he is in Edinburgh.
Might be a bit of a local disagreement brewing up north then?
That biomedical Ponting chap and all that.

 

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For context because Garner is referred to as «she» in the auto translate of the Finnish article:

Finnish doesn’t use gender for personal pronouns, it’s all hän.

 

Thanks for your correction @Utsikt, I've deleted my post. I posted too fast, too furious. I apologize.

 

No worries. I’ve edited the post to remove your comment as well.

 

Totally understandable.
It’s hard to resist throwing those low punches (metaphorically, not advocating violence) when you know these people have surely lead to countless preventable deaths.

 

He’s screaming into an echo chamber which is becoming a void and his relevance is decreasing

 

I found this interesting, from his valedictory lecture in 2022. I have clipped it from the full recording.

Paul Garner's love of controvery and media appearances

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxu6OQZGGA4E5wZxc8sMUhCnFz95T9-y3f?si=k6LZsIC_SUfheRwT

 

Preaching to his choir:

Ducks quacking in rows.

 

Interpol is an international law enforcement organization that works with major cross-border crimes. They're not even technically a police force (in the sense of having badged agents with guns), they coordinate at the national level between police forces when crimes cross jurisdictions, basically a bureaucracy. Not letters of complaints, not just regular crimes, major crimes.

They don't deal in petty stuff like this, they handle cartels, major trafficking rings, terrorists, etc. This is such an egregious lie, he may just as well have said that he won 4 Nobel prizes for his work but they're just being held up by paperwork, and it's completely unserious for a professional publication to publish the ramblings of a mad person.

 

Good grief these people are so small and petty.

She received messages asking simple questions and complaints. All proper stuff. And it's presented like they actually got bombs in the mail. What a bunch of dishonest charlatans.

So, literally, nothing happened to them other than people disagree with them, accurately so. This is completely inoffensive given how offensive their claims are. Their entire basis for complaining is that people don't agree with them. And they write an article about it making this about threats. What a freaking scam this is.

Remember how it all happened with Wessely's gang:

1. For years they made claims of death threats, of being mailed bombs and feeling so threatened that being in (a safe compound in) a war zone felt safer
2. Then it was complaints of harassment, of receiving complaints, of having people correct their lousy papers
3. Then it was being trolled on the Internet
4. Now it's basically "people disagree with us, wah-wah! not fair, WAAAAAHH!"

And here it's basically a quick re-hash of all this, but any serious reader would focus on how it's just petty complaints about their perceived wisdom not being given its proper place among the likes of general relativity and evolution as scientific theories.

Pathetic. I don't mind pathetic people, but how do otherwise serious professionals look at this and not see how completely pathetic these people are?

 

Maybe they were involved to some extent….

I sadly once worked with someone who contacted interpol regarding what they believed to be a fraudulent sick note from an overseas clinic. Their involvement was to very politely tell him this isn’t their remit. I can only hope it gave them a good laugh, I still feel mortified at the thought. Also the sick note was later validated by the High Commission for the country, it wasn’t even fake.

so you see, I too had an incident at work where interpol got involved.

I didn’t realise Paul was such a disruptor, getting kicked out of youth club for asking them to let the kids from the secondary modern to join! Always speaking the truth, that was quite the transcript.

 

Yeah I don’t think it’s impossible that interpol participated. As long as it’s some elite who upholds the system I wouldn’t be extremely suprised if interpol would take claims of death threats seriously.

 

If a death threat was made from abroad against a public official, I wouldn’t be surprised if Interpol somehow got involved. It could possibly fall under their anti-terrorism focus. Or simply facilitating cross-border police co-operation.

 

Had to make a low quality meme

 

I have just seen a very disturbing post from a Jenny Wilson on Dr HNG's Facebook page:

"Yesterday, I read Prof Paul Garner's tweet that if only Dr Miller had been able to give Maeve CBT she would have lived!
Today he is lecturing at King's College, London.
Here is one of his slides."

 

Does anyone have a source for that claim about Miller and Maeve?

And do we know that he is giving the same presentation at KC?