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Potential of Activin B as a Clinical Biomarker in Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS), 2021, Gravelsina et al

Discussion in 'ME/CFS research' started by Sly Saint, Aug 11, 2021.

  1. Sly Saint

    Sly Saint Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Abstract
    Reliable serum biomarkers are of immense need for diagnostic purposes of myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS)—a disabling and complex disease for which diagnosis is mainly based on clinical symptoms.

    The aim of this study was to evaluate a possible diagnostic potential of activin B by directly comparing 134 cases of ME/CFS with 54 healthy controls. Analyses of human activin B level in plasma samples were performed using a validated human activin B ELISA assay. The results of the study show that activin B levels did not differ statistically significantly between ME/CFS patients and healthy controls (p = 0.6511). No gender or age-related differences in activin B levels were observed in the ME/CFS group and healthy controls. The level of activin B tended to decrease with increasing visual analogue scale score (r = −0.2004; p = 0.5085) nevertheless

    the results obtained so far does not support the clinical utility of activin B as a biomarker for ME/CFS.

    https://www.mdpi.com/2218-273X/11/8/1189
     
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    click on tag 'activin' to see the original australian study that proposed activin b as a biomarker.
     
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    Not sure if this would explain the difference between studies.

    The authors discuss this point as follows:
    Here's the main data. Seems like there are lots of participants that are close to the quantification limit.
    upload_2021-8-15_21-16-32.png
     
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    Good that this replication study received support from the Latvian government. The study notes:
    https://twitter.com/user/status/1425523490749288448
     
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    So are they claiming there that both cohorts had 'post-exertional fatigue', which I also assume they believe is equivalent to PEM? Unless there is more detail on their assumptions I remain unconvinced that they are necessarily looking at comparable cohorts.
     
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    The original study also speaks of "post-exertional fatigue" rather than PEM. Activin B is a novel biomarker for chronic fatigue syndrome/myalgic encephalomyelitis (CFS/ME) diagnosis: a cross sectional study (biomedcentral.com)

    I think it is sometimes underestimated how few studies correctly assessed PEM (as PEM is understood in the online patient community).
     
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    In the 80s it was recommended that all studies be done on patients who were standing or at least fatigued. I remember one where they did a QEEG (?) where they found a problem in Me patients who were standing against the usual way where they were lying down.
     
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    The original study finding Activin B biomarker had a significant COI - related to the development of a drug.
     
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