Sweden: Seminar for doctors on how to distinguish ME from chronic fatigue/burnout

Kalliope

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The Journal of the Swedish Medical Association is arranging this seminar for the third year in a row. They've had 1 100 participants till now and I believe it's been one of their most popular seminars ever.

This time the seminar will take place in Sundsvall April 1st.

There will be two lectures on chronic fatigue/burnout syndrome and two lectures on ME. The latter lectures will be held by MD Per Julin from the ME/CFS clinic at Stora Sköndal and by prof. Jonas Bergquist.

https://magnetevent.se/Event/utmatt...5ox6bu99msBHDrquU_vt3pObUMUX31xBUg92u1Flz6saU
 
The Journal of the Swedish Medical Association is arranging this seminar for the third year in a row. They've had 1 100 participants till now and I believe it's been one of their most popular seminars ever.

This time the seminar will take place in Sundsvall April 1st.

There will be two lectures on chronic fatigue/burnout syndrome and two lectures on ME. The latter lectures will be held by MD Per Julin from the ME/CFS clinic at Stora Sköndal and by prof. Jonas Bergquist.

https://magnetevent.se/Event/utmatt...5ox6bu99msBHDrquU_vt3pObUMUX31xBUg92u1Flz6saU

Fun fact: I was born in Sundsvall and lived there the first 20 years of my life :).
It’s a rather large city located almost in the middle of Sweden, at the coastline, with approximately 90 000 inhabitants. It's easy to access by any mode of transportation and is rather tourist friendly, so hopefully the seminar will be sold out.
 
Here's an example of what is being taught at these seminars:
Dr Per Julin writes about the differences between ME and stress-induced fatigue/burnout ("utmattningssyndrom", literally "exhaustion syndrome", which is a separate diagnosis in Sweden), in the latest issue of the medical journal Medicinsk Tidskrift:

Nyfiken på Trötthet
https://ki.se/forskning/nyfiken-pa-trotthet

Google Translate:

Curious About Fatigue
[...]ME/CFS, formerly called chronic fatigue syndrome, is a disease that in many ways resembles burnout syndrome. This poses a certain risk of uncertain diagnostics, says Per Julin, chief physician at the neurological rehabilitation clinic Stora Sköndal and researcher at the Department of Neurobiology, Care Sciences and Society, Karolinska Institutet.

- There have been several rounds of diagnostic criteria for ME/CFS and some of those who have been diagnosed with older variants, where fatigue was the main criterion, may in fact have had stress-induced fatigue syndrome, burnout. This gives uncertainty about older studies, where it is unclear what diagnosis the included patients actually had. But research becomes better and safer as the right people are included in the studies, says Per Julin.

There are several clear differences between the illnesses. For example, the ME/CFS disease often occurs after an acute infection, such as glandular fever, tick borne infection or influenza.

Another difference is that people with ME/CFS get worse by any kind of exertion. Physical and mental activity can cause flu-like symptoms, some even cause fever. This symptom, called post-exertional malaise, PEM, is central to the disease. This means that all activity can be exhausting, even such as the patient previously experienced as recovering, such as pleasant socializing or a walk. It also means that people with ME/CFS cannot use physical activity as part of their treatment in the same way as patients with stress-induced fatigue syndrome burnout.

- Actually, the typical patient is fairly easy to diagnose. The sad thing is that they are often the most misunderstood, says Per Julin.

He collaborates with researchers at Karolinska Institutet and Uppsala, among others, in search of biomarkers and treatments relevant to ME/CFS. And from a research perspective, Per Julin is hopeful for the future.

- Current research increasingly points to autoimmune mechanisms, inflammation of the nervous system and impact on the cells' energy production capacity. In recent years there have been many new drugs in the fields of cancer and immunology, aimed at specific mechanisms of action in the immune system. I think that if we only get a little further in biomarker research around ME/CFS, so that we can better dial in the mechanisms that are affected, then I think the step may be short for more drug or treatment trials,” says Per Julin.
 
Oh I like this! There needs to be a clear explanation that burn out syndrome is not Me/cfs. Burn out is the go-to-diagnose-for-everything-I-don’t understand now for docters, so it’s good to pay attention to the differences. I think it’s not that hard to diagnose the difference, if you know where to look for. Maybe in some cases in the beginning of the disease, it is more difficult.
 
“It is easy to understand why we get tired when we are sick. It is to do with the brain telling the body to reprioritise so that we use our energy to heal and get well. But we react differently to an infection. Some are completely knocked out, others can go on relatively unaffected. I am trying to understand why we react so differently when we get sick, and within that I am focusing especially on tiredness,” says Julie Lasselin.

First, about 'the brain telling the body to prioritise', I find this is very likely to be over simplifying what is happening.

Also, because this person is a behaviourist then de facto she will not be considering any other possibility. What if the differences lie in very small and specific differences in biochemistry between individuals. That would be difficult work to tease out.

But coming up with explanations for behavioural differences. Anybody can do that. I would say at this point from what I've read you don't even need a degree to manage this level of 'expertise'. And of course this type of work provides something that actual science can't;
Instant Gratification.

The clinician can be pleased at letting everyone know that they have sorted it all out and that the sick person is simply being too preoccupied with their own functioning etc. It's a real 'feel good' moment for the clinician who knows beyond a shadow of any doubt that they would never succumb to this weakness. But their caring and compassion can help the rest of us.

Ooooo, look at that. Psychologising can be fun.
 

'How to reduce everyday tiredness

3) Exercise. Physical activity is energising '

Sigh. There was no reservation for ME/CFS patients as far as I could see.
That advice box at the end "How to reduce everyday tiredness" was a bit unfortunate. It's not meant to refer to ME but that could definitely have been made clearer.

The article itself is actually quite interesting. Much of it discusses a number of different types of tiredness and fatigue - and stresses that they are different. It specifically makes the point that ME and burnout (or what they call exhaustion disorder) are different things, how only ME is defined by PEM, and how it's likely that in the past a lot of studies would have had a mix of participants with ME and burnout, leading to unreliable results.
 
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