Trial By Error: CBT and Irritable Bowel Syndrome

Discussion in 'Other psychosomatic news and research' started by Cheshire, Jan 24, 2020.

  1. Invisible Woman

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    That's all we need - venture vultures feeding the trolls.
     
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    Except so far the vulture said the online CBT was crap!
     
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    Thank you. I've never managed to remember those US abbreviations about diagnoses and treatments with an x on the end (Rx, Dx and ???), and yet most Americans use them without batting an eyelid about it. And I've never heard of a Digital Therapeutic treatment before either, so I learn something new every day. Unfortunately, I'll probably have forgotten what DTx means by bedtime. :banghead:
     
  5. Invisible Woman

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    Thank heaven for that! Can you imagine the damage this crowd could do with the kind of funding venture capital could throw at them?

    I sincerely hope the venture vultures come to the conclusion they don't want their brand associated with such very low quality research & products.
     
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    Perhaps they'll start selling it on Goop.
     
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    I think this is a thing of beauty (you've probably highlighted it before) CBT for IBS ---- you wouldn't make it up. Do you do a microbiome test before, and after, CBT i.e. as an objective measurement of improvement ---?
     
  8. Jonathan Edwards

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    As far as I was aware treatment was always Rx, not Tx. I suspect this DTx is a newfangled babblebungle.
     
  9. Jonathan Edwards

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    Generally people don't bother and just go through the motions.
     
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    well, now that the FDA has approved it, I think the issue will likely draw more interest from the realm of observers and readers outside Virology Blog. Matthew Holt (the guy who got the embargoed copy of the Mahana press release and tweeted out the thread about it) runs The Health Care Blog, which is well-read by health care professionals. His thing is bad digital stuff, which is how it caught his eye.
     
  11. dave30th

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    He's got a thing about useless or excessively hyped online tech nonsense.
     
  12. Jonathan Edwards

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    Yes he seemed to be saying that unlike you he does not trouble himself with the details of evidence quality, he just likes to call things crap when it suits him. And of course he does not want to slur anything like CBT if it might upset people.
     
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    Well, from my e-mail exchanges with him, I don't think that's quite it. And in fact that does him a bit of a disservice, I think He recognizes that in this case the evidence is crap and cites me because I've done the analysis, but he's not surprised the evidence is crap because he sees most studies as being badly designed and providing little actionable data. In this case, he doesn't like basic things like online "advice" being monetized as if it's the same as talking to a human. He doesn't care about CBT one way or the other, whether to slur or not, and he's certainly doesn't seem concerned about upsetting anyone.
     
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    Trial by Error: FDA Approves Web-CBT for IBS; GET/CBT as Tomorrow’s “Rubbish”

    https://www.virology.ws/2020/12/06/...ves-cbt-for-ibs-get-cbt-as-tomorrows-rubbish/
     
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    Mahana Therapeutics Obtains CE Mark for Parallel™ in the UK

    full press release
    https://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-r...mark-for-parallel-tm-in-the-uk-801248366.html
     
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  18. dave30th

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    just ridiculous
     
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    Lucrative snake oil
     
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    £££££
    It was ever thus
     
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