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Trudie Chalder, BPS and MUS proponent - presentations, interviews and news

Discussion in 'UK clinics and doctors' started by Esther12, Sep 2, 2018.

  1. Art Vandelay

    Art Vandelay Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I've uploaded it here just in case.
     
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    Thanks, @Adam pwme for highlighting this. I am repeatedly shocked and appalled at how ignorant TC is about PEM. It's scandalous that she still holds a professorship and is able to influence medical care so disastrously.
    @PhysiosforME are you able to do anything?
     
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    At what point does such behaviour become criminal. I tried looking at the UK clinical psychologists professional body website but could not find anything on professional standards (https://acpuk.org.uk/ )
     
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  6. Barry

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    "Trudie Chalder (PACE trial) is training health professionals on Long Covid. Describes Post Exertional Malaise as "Health anxiety" and an "Extreme behavioural response" states "Exercise is clearly not damaging" and recommends "Increasing exercise""

    This is the exact sort of thing we should be filing for future reference in the event of any legal action down the line. And to retain any screenshots etc. of anything relevant in case it gets pulled down. Amazing!
     
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  7. Esther12

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    I just thought I'd add that, when doing a video with excerpts like this on social media it could be worth adding a link to the full talk so everyone can see that for themselves? Any editing will change things a bit but additionally linking to the original video makes it more difficult for anyone to complain about that.
     
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  8. Adam pwme

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    Links are in the last tweet

    https://twitter.com/user/status/1396847457175326729
     
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    It appears that they simply cannott hear any concept that would reveal their ideas to not be backed up by fact. It is inconceivable to them that they are wrong, that they even can be wrong, it's not even possible in their world, so any information that would suggest that they are, simply will not go in. It cannot be absorbed, it does not exist. Their minds are made of steel, covered with teflon.

    To interpret being confined to bed for a fortnight as a 'behavioural' response is just flabbergasting, and at the same time insultingly predictable. It's spectacularly obtuse.

    When someone says 'cant get out of bed' why can she not understand the word cant, it's plain english, it doesnt mean 'didnt want to' or 'was too scared to', or 'thought i shouldnt because of a weird idea i picked up because of 'reasons''.... it means CANT... C A N T .....

    ie you try to stand up & collapse on floor, no matter how hard you want to, how much you believe you can, or how hard you try. Body will not support you & you collapse, then you crawl to the toilet, a few ft at a time.
    - thats what i mean when i say 'cant' anyway.

    It's not behavioural.

    The frustration is so hard to bear.
     
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  11. Ariel

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    Where is the pushback from so-called long covid advocates?
     
  12. Trish

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    You are so right. Gaslighting at its worst by someone paid to help us. I despair.
     
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    In my opinion, that's an unfair comment. We are just over a year into the existence of Long Covid as an entity, so I think the amount of advocacy that LC patients are doing already is impressive. The fact that Chalder's rubbish isn't high on their radar is unsurprising, given all that is new that they are having to deal with.
     
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    You are right. I was just quite upset. Sorry! :/
     
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    I agree. There is a massive learning curve, which is all the steeper in the early days.
     
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    As I've just tweeted, this is medical abuse/harm in real time. I'm crashing at the moment and this has made me want to put my fist through a door in despair/frustration. Chalder is a danger. A dangerous charlatan. She's done no less harm than Wessely, White, or Sharpe.
     
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    I really feel this needs reporting.
     
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    Is there any mechanism for this? She is not a doctor
     
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