UK: REGISTER AS A VULNERABLE PERSON TO GET CORONAVIRUS SUPPORT

I read somewhere that this list is going to be updated once a week with additional names that get picked up via GP records (I think it said every Monday - they are expecting another 600,000 or so). So it would still be worth signing up to the list if you haven't already as presumably they will send an updated list of those who ticked they needed help to supermarkets each week (I'm just guessing here, but it would be odd if they didn't).
 
My problem is, I'm incapable of lying to official bodies! I don't want to be fined or otherwise sanctioned for lying. I simply don't have any of the listed conditions. And my doctor would have to tell them so if they check. Who knows whether there will end up being a blacklist of people who tried to circumvent the system sent to supermarkets to tell them not to give us priority.

I'm hoping I'll get on the Waitrose list on the grounds of age. And if not, I'll write to customer services and plead need.
 
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My problem is, I'm incapable of lying to official bodies! I don't want to be fined or otherwise sanctioned for lying. I simply don't have any of the listed conditions. And my doctor would have to tell them so if they check. Who knows whether there will end up being a blacklist of people who tried to circumvent the system sent to supermarkets to tell them not to give us priority.

I'm hoping I'll get on the Waitrose list on the grounds of age. And if not, I'll write to customer services and plead need.
Iceland allows you self-declare as vulnerable. You could try that?

I doubt there would be fines or sanctions, however. They probably haven't got the resources to police it in that way. Much simpler for 'computer says no'.
 
I'm with you @Trish
In the beginning it seems the form was more vague, but now they have tightened things up i'm not happy declaring myself as having one of the listed conditions if I haven't. Apart from anything else I don't ever want my GP (new who doesn't yet know me very well but with whom I had 2 ok appointments for benefits) to start thinking I am a hypochondriac or somebody who either thinks of myself as, or wants to be seen as, someone with one of the listed conditions (for the extremely vulnerable list - not for increased risk list which is what neurological conditions comes under). With the BPS msg so strongly out there, & with no other conditions than ME I just don't want to risk it.

My pastor said yesterday that whilever he is well he quite happy go shopping for me, so if I cant get a slot I will ask him. I'm not happy about it because he's in his 60s with high BP, but I cant go for myself so....
 
My pastor said yesterday that whilever he is well he quite happy go shopping for me, so if I cant get a slot I will ask him. I'm not happy about it because he's in his 60s with high BP, but I cant go for myself so....
Yes. This is also my concern with using the local village network. Most of the locals offering help will be the 'healthy active' but retired people. I want to minimise their exposure too!
 
I have just received this email from Asda (I think I set up an account with them when I first explored moving most of my shopping - barring my monthly in store shop/prescription collection with Sainsburys - to online shopping):

Asda is here to help you get your groceries while you stay safe at home.

The government has let us know you need support. So we are making you a priority customer.

If you do choose Asda, we will provide you with priority access to set up a regular weekly delivery slot. You'll be able to shop with us online and we will deliver your shopping to you “contact free”.

You may hear from other supermarkets too and you can choose who you want to shop with - but please only choose one.

HOW IT WORKS

We will set up a free Asda Priority Pass for you. You’ll hear from us soon to confirm this is ready.
Your free pass gives you:

• Priority on new home delivery slots as they become available

• The chance to book a recurring weekly slot for peace of mind

• Free delivery
"CONTACT FREE" DELIVERY

To keep you safe you will have a “contact free” delivery.

This means the delivery driver will leave your shopping at your front door in carrier bags. They will knock or call to let you know your delivery has arrived and stay 2 metres away at all times. To keep you and our colleagues safe, they are not allowed to come into your home.

Over the phone

We are setting up a dedicated call centre to help you. This will open on Wednesday 8th April. You can call us on 0800 0281 966 - open 8am to 8pm and it's free to call.

What’s next?

As you are already an Asda customer you do not need to do anything right now. We will set up your Priority Pass within the next 48 hours and let you know when it’s done.
Stay safe. We are here to help.
 
My update:i think the form has been tightened up since i filled it in. i have not received a letter from the government saying i am in a most vulnerable group...but i got a text the other day saying as i did not fulfil the criteria they would check my NHS records ( which i had given permission for).

Today i received an email from Asda saying that i am being considered vulnerable and can have a priority shopping delivery. I think it would be worth registering if you can. I don't imagine there would be manpower to get back to folk who ticked a box that doesn't apply to you @Trish you should definately be a priority.

In the interests of transparency, i have a few chronic conditions including moderately bad asthma.
 
I have just received this email from Asda (I think I set up an account with them when I first explored moving most of my shopping - barring my monthly in store shop/prescription collection with Sainsburys - to online shopping):

I had the same email from ASDA yesterday as well although I don't use them much. I checked this morning and there are quite a few available slots in my area towards the end of next week. It's also giving me free delivery!
 
I would appear to have been put on the government’s extremely vulnerable list, presumably because of the recent correspondence I had with my GP about this. I have received what I assume is the standard NHS shielding letter. It came from my GP and says

The NHS has identified you, or the named person you care for, as someone at risk of severe illness if you catch Coronavirus (also known as COVID-19). This is because you have an underlying disease or health condition that means if you catch the virus, you are more likely to be admitted to hospital than others.

Here’s the full letter:

Dear [My name]


IMPORTANT ADVICE TO KEEP YOU SAFE FROM CORONAVIRUS


Your safety and the continued provision of the care and treatment you need is a priority for the NHS. This letter gives you advice on how to protect yourself and access the care and treatment you need.


The NHS has identified you, or the named person you care for, as someone at risk of severe illness if you catch Coronavirus (also known as COVID-19). This is because you have an underlying disease or health condition that means if you catch the virus, you are more likely to be admitted to hospital than others.


The safest course of action is for you to stay at home at all times and avoid all face-to-face contact for at least twelve weeks, except from carers and healthcare workers who you must see as part of your medical care. This will protect you by stopping you from coming into contact with the virus.


If you are in touch with friends, family or a support network in your community who can support you to get food and medicine, follow the advice in this letter. If you do not have contacts who can help support you go to www.gov.uk/coronavirusextremely-vulnerable, the Government’s dedicated website.


If, at any point, you think you have developed symptoms of coronavirus, such as a new, continuous cough and/or high temperature (above 37.8 °C), seek clinical advice using the NHS 111 online coronavirus service (https://111.nhs.uk/covid-19/). If you do not have access to the internet, call NHS 111. Do this as soon as you get symptoms.


You, or the person you care for, should:

• strictly avoid contact with someone who is displaying symptoms of coronavirus (COVID-19). These symptoms include high temperature (above 37.8 °C) and/or a new and continuous cough

• not leave your home

• not attend any gatherings. This includes gatherings of friends and families in private spaces e.g. family homes, weddings and religious services

• not go out for shopping, leisure or travel. When arranging food or medication deliveries, these should be left at the door to minimise contact

• keep in touch using remote technology such as phone, internet, and social media

• use telephone or online services to contact your GP or other essential services

• regularly wash your hands with soap and water for 20 seconds. Ask carers or support workers who visit your home to do the same.

The rest of your household should support you to stay safe and stringently follow guidance on social distancing, reducing their contact outside the home.


In your home, you should:

• minimise the time you spend with others in shared spaces (kitchen, bathroom and sitting areas) and keep shared spaces well ventilated

• aim to keep 2 metres (3 steps) away from others and encourage them to sleep in a different bed where possible

• use separate towels and, if possible, use a separate bathroom from the rest of the household, or clean the bathroom after every use

• avoid using the kitchen when others are present, take your meals back to your room to eat where possible, and ensure all kitchenware is cleaned thoroughly.

If the rest of your household are able to follow this guidance, there is no need for them to take the full protective measures to keep you safe.


You will still get the medical care you need during this period. We are considering alternative options for managing your care and will be in touch if any changes are needed. Your hospital care team will be doing the same. We also advise that:


1. Carers and support workers who come to your home

Any essential carers or visitors who support you with your everyday needs can continue to visit, unless they have any of the symptoms of coronavirus. All visitors should wash their hands with soap and water for 20 seconds, on arrival and often.


It is also a good idea to speak to your carers about what happens if one of them becomes unwell. If you need help with care but you’re not sure who to contact please visit www.gov.uk/coronavirus-extremely-vulnerable.


2. Medicines that you routinely take

The government is helping pharmacies to deliver prescriptions. Prescriptions will continue to cover the same length of time as usual. If you do not currently have your prescriptions collected or delivered, you can arrange this by:


• Asking someone who can pick up your prescription from the local pharmacy, (this is the best option, if possible);

• Contacting your pharmacy to ask them to help you find a volunteer (who will have been ID checked) or deliver it to you.

• You may also need to arrange for collection or delivery of hospital specialist medication that is prescribed to you by your hospital care team.


3. Planned GP practice appointments

Wherever possible, we will provide care by phone, email or online. But if we decide you need to be seen in person, we will contact you to arrange your visit to the surgery or a visit in your home.


4. Planned hospital appointments

NHS England have written to your hospital to ask them to review any ongoing care that you have with them. It is possible that some clinics and appointments will be cancelled or postponed. Your hospital or clinic will contact you if any changes need to be made to your care or treatment. Otherwise you should assume your care or treatment is taking place as planned. Please contact your hospital or clinic directly if you have any questions about a specific appointment.


5. Support with daily living

Please discuss your daily needs during this period of staying at home with carers, family, friends, neighbours or local community groups to see how they can support you. If you do not have anyone who can help you, please visit www.gov.uk/coronavirus-extremely-vulnerable. This letter is evidence, for your employer, to show that you cannot work outside the home. You do not need to get a fit note from your GP. If you need help from the benefit system visit https://www.gov.uk/universal-credit.


6. Urgent medical attention

If you have an urgent medical question relating to your existing medical condition, or the condition of the person you are caring for please contact us, or your specialist hospital care team, directly. Where possible, you will be supported by phone or online. If your clinician decides you need to be seen in person, the NHS will contact you to arrange a visit in your home, or where necessary, treatment in hospital. To help the NHS provide you with the best care if you need to go to hospital as a result of catching coronavirus, we ask that you prepare a single hospital bag. This should include your emergency contact, a list of the medications you take (including dose and frequency), any information on your planned care appointments and things you would need for an overnight stay (snacks, pyjamas, toothbrush, medication etc). If you have an advanced care plan, please include that.


7. Looking after your mental well-being

We understand that this may be a worrying time and you may find staying at home and having limited contact frustrating. At times like these, it can be easy to fall into 4 unhealthy patterns of behaviour, which can make you feel worse.


Simple things you can do to stay mentally and physically active during this time include:

• look for ideas for exercises to do at home on the NHS website

• spend time doing things you enjoy – reading, cooking and other indoor hobbies

• try to eat healthy, well-balanced meals, drink enough water, exercise regularly, and try to avoid smoking, alcohol and recreational drugs

• try spending time with the windows open to let in fresh air, arranging space to sit and see a nice view (if possible) and get some natural sunlight. Get out into the garden or sit on your doorstep if you can, keeping a distance of at least 2 metres from others.


You can find additional advice and support from Every Mind Matters and the NHS mental health and wellbeing advice website.


Further information on coronavirus, including guidance from Public Health England, can be found on the nhs.uk1 and gov.uk2 websites.


Yours sincerely


[My GP’s name]



List of diseases and conditions considered to be very high risk


1. Solid organ transplant recipients

2. People with specific cancers

a. People with cancer who are undergoing active chemotherapy or radical radiotherapy for lung cancer

b. People with cancers of the blood or bone marrow such as leukaemia, lymphoma or myeloma who are at any stage of treatment

c. People having immunotherapy or other continuing antibody treatments for cancer • People having other targeted cancer treatments which can affect the immune system, such as protein kinase inhibitors or PARP inhibitors

d. People who have had bone marrow or stem cell transplants in the last 6 months, or who are still taking immunosuppression drugs

3. People with severe respiratory conditions including all cystic fibrosis, severe asthma and severe COPD

4. People with rare diseases and inborn errors of metabolism that significantly increase the risk of infections (such as SCID, homozygous sickle cell)

5. People on immunosuppression therapies sufficient to significantly increase risk of infection

6. People who are pregnant with significant heart disease, congenital or acquired

So it’s still possible to be recognised as extremely vulnerable without having any of the listed conditions (I don’t) and with a diagnosis of ME/CFS (that’s the only condition I have aside from neutropenia but I doubt whether the neutropenia had much influence over the decision).

It’s definitely worth writing to your GP even if you don’t have any of the listed conditions but you think you should be on the list.
 
It’s definitely worth writing to your GP even if you don’t have any of the listed conditions but you think you should be on the list.
The response you get will depend on your GP. My practice has been very bad in this regard despite me having severe asthma. I've been trying to get them to ensure I get a letter with my own name and address on it, because the national NHS trawl seems to have directed my shielding letter to my daughter as my named carer - confirmed to be the case by her GP practice. She doesn't live with me but named herself as my 'carer' so she could make phone calls on my behalf and communicate with my doctor due to my autism. The response I received has been very upsetting, which is why I plan to make a formal complaint in the future.
 
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This was just released by the Scottish Government

"A new helpline has also been set up to support people who are vulnerable but not in one of the shielded groups.
Opening on Tuesday, it is intended for those who are elderly, pregnant, in need of mental health support or in receipt of the flu jab.
The number is 0800 111 4000."
 
This morning I finally got a 'shielding' letter in my own name, NHS number, and address.

Bizarrely, on Tuesday I got a call from the NHS asking for my daughter, and saying she should register on the website as this was 'really important'. The caller started to speak into my answer machine so I picked up the phone, something I very rarely do unless it's family. I had a fruitless conversation trying to explain that it was me who should be shielding not my healthy young daughter, who doesn't even live here. She was confused and unable to help as she 'only had a script to follow'.

My daughter shouldn't have my landline number on her medical records, the only time she has given this was a few years ago when she was having a minor day patient operation, but it was given to the hospital as her 'next of kin' only. So she's pretty angry at all the unauthorised 'data-sharing' that the NHS/government seems to be doing.

Yesterday she checked with her GP to confirm my number isn't on her records (it isn't) and then phoned my GP, who confirmed I was now showing on their system as being in the shielded group. Today I miraculously have the shielding letter from them (they haven't been responding to my emails, but seem to have responded to a phone call).

I'm waiting to see now if any practical help actually materialises. I don't need it now that I'm sorted with the supermarkets, but I want to see what my council actually does (or doesn't do) because they have been particularly bad in terms of social care and supporting the most vulnerable residents.
 
Merged thread

Supermarkets face mass legal action over discrimination

Supermarkets are facing mass legal action from disabled people left anxious and distressed because they are unable to buy food and other groceries during the coronavirus crisis.

At least 30 disabled people have instructed solicitors to begin legal action against various supermarkets for discriminating against them under the Equality Act by failing to make the reasonable adjustments needed for them to shop safely.

Many of them have found it impossible to order home deliveries online, because they are not in the small proportion of disabled people seen by the government as being “extremely clinically vulnerable”.

Some of those taking legal action are unable to shop safely in supermarkets because of the pandemic, while others are unable to travel to supermarkets for impairment-related reasons.
https://www.disabilitynewsservice.c...s-face-mass-legal-action-over-discrimination/
 
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I got the Asda email too.
I found a couple of £4 slots at my usual delivering supermarket - ASDA - a couple of days ago, and took advantage. I don't usually pay that much for delivery, but their item prices are low. Have been having to trudge about half a mile to the Co-op, but hopefully that's ended. My organic veg place (Riverford) are delivering again too. A neighbour got me some gluten-free rolls from Tesco recently too.

Some deliveries are taking a long time to come.
 
I found a couple of £4 slots at my usual delivering supermarket - ASDA - a couple of days ago, and took advantage. I don't usually pay that much for delivery, but their item prices are low. Have been having to trudge about half a mile to the Co-op, but hopefully that's ended. My organic veg place (Riverford) are delivering again too. A neighbour got me some gluten-free rolls from Tesco recently too.

Some deliveries are taking a long time to come.
Good luck with it! I know it's a stress.
 
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