Keep trying to take a break, but getting asked questions

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Yes and I made that exact point earlier. I agree that ALONE it doesn't make a mitochondrial role in ME/CFS certain. But as I said it is a datapoint of interest. Of interest; do you think that there is no role for a mito defect in ME/CFS?
Not suggesting severe COVID equals ME/CFS; clearly not. From what I have seen; NIH-funded work has documented increased ME/CFS diagnoses following covid infection and increased rates of ME/CFS since COVID. If you have critiques of those studies, I’m genuinely interested. I’m not aware of evidence that severe COVID is protective for ME/CFS, and from what I have seen, reports suggest ME/CFS/Long-COVID risk isn’t tightly tied to acute-illness severity. Would love to know more there if that isn't what's noted here.
The specific reason I mentioned COVID here is mechanistic: SARS-CoV-2 can exacerbate cardiomyopathy in individuals with HADHA variants. That cardiomyopathy has been linked to impaired long-chain fatty-acid oxidation with toxic metabolite accumulation and tissue injury; biology that contributes to post-exertional and chronic fatigue. So an interesting data point.
Ok pulled together a starter set of both the studies and a few reviews of studies; not exhaustive. It’d be great if someone had already done a deep, post-hoc review of these papers with varied expertise. We’re slowly scanning pre-existing omics studies for signals that map to mitochondrial variants (including in supplement tables that may have been overlooked); if we ever finish, I’ll share it gladly.
Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) is a disabling multisystem illness in which individuals are plagued with fatigue, inflammatory symptoms, cognitive dysfunction, and the hallmark symptom, post-exertional malaise. While the cause of this disease remains unknown, there is...
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Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) is a chronic illness with a multifactorial etiology and heterogeneous symptomatology, posing major challenges for diagnosis and treatment. Here we present BioMapAI, a supervised deep neural network trained on a 4-year, longitudinal...
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Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) is characterized by unexplained fatigue, post-exertional malaise (PEM), and cognitive dysfunction. ME/CFS patients often report a prodrome consistent with infection. We present a multi-omics analysis based on plasma metabolomic and...
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Myalgic encephalomyelitis / chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) is a common, poorly understood disease that has no effective treatments, and has long been underserved by scientific research and national health systems. It is a sex-biased disease towards females that is often triggered by an...
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The latest worldwide prevalence rate projects that over 65 million patients suffer from myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS), an illness with known effects on the functioning of the immune and nervous systems. We performed an extensive metabolomics analysis on the plasma...
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Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) and Long Covid-19 (LC-19) are complex conditions with no diagnostic markers or consensus on disease progression. Despite extensive research, no<i>in vitro</i>model exists to study skeletal muscle wasting, peripheral weakness, or...
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An estimated 10% of coronavirus disease (COVID-19) survivors suffer from persisting symptoms referred to as long COVID (LC), a condition for which approved treatment options are still lacking. This systematic review (PROSPERO: CRD42024499281) aimed to explore the pathophysiological mechanisms...
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Decreased Fatty Acid Oxidation and Altered Lactate Production during Exercise in Patients with Post-acute COVID-19 Syndrome
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Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) is a complex, heterogeneous, and systemic disease defined by a suite of symptoms, including unexplained persistent fatigue, post-exertional malaise (PEM), cognitive impairment, myalgia, orthostatic intolerance, and unrefreshing sleep...
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Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) is characterized by unexplained fatigue, post-exertional malaise (PEM), and cognitive dysfunction. ME/CFS patients often report a prodrome consistent with infection. We present a multi-omics analysis based on plasma metabolomic and...
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Exercise intolerance is a major manifestation of post-acute sequelae of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus infection (PASC, or "long-COVID"). Exercise intolerance in PASC is associated with higher arterial blood lactate accumulation and lower fatty acid oxidation rates during graded...
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LCLs generated from circulating B cells from people with ME/CFS show accumulation of lipids, skewed lipid profiles and altered activity of related metabolic enzymes such as PTDSS1. These findings will inform future hypothesis-driven studies of primary lymphoid cell populations from people with...
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The observed sex-specific pattern of dysregulated PL, NL, HexCer and oxylipins in ME/CFS patients suggests a possible role of these lipids in promoting immune dysfunction and inflammation which may be among the underlying factors driving the clinical presentation of fatigue, chronic pain, and...
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Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) is a debilitating long-term multisystem disorder with a central and inexplicably persistent fatigue symptom that is unable to be relieved by rest. Energy metabolism and oxidative stress have been recent focal points of ME/CFS research...
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Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) is an enigmatic condition characterized by exacerbation of symptoms after exertion (post-exertional malaise or "PEM"), and by fatigue whose severity and associated requirement for rest are excessive and disproportionate to the...
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Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) is a debilitating disease usually presenting after infection. Emerging evidence supports that energy metabolism is affected in ME/CFS, but a unifying metabolic phenotype has not been firmly established. We performed global metabolomics...
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Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) is a debilitating multisystem disorder characterised by long-term fatigue with a variety of other symptoms including cognitive dysfunction, unrefreshing sleep, muscle pain, and post-exertional malaise. It is a poorly understood condition that occurs in ~5 in every...
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Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) is a clinically heterogeneous disease lacking approved therapies. To assess genetic susceptibility toward a specific metabolic phenotype, we performed a genome-wide association study on plasma biomarker levels (mGWAS) in patients with...
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Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME) is a severe, debilitating disease, with substantial evidence pointing to immune dysregulation as a key contributor to pathophysiology. To characterize the gene regulatory state underlying T cell dysregulation in ME, we performed multiomic...
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Patients with Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) differ for triggers, mode of start, associated symptoms, evolution, and biochemical traits. Therefore, serious attempts are underway to partition them into subgroups useful for a personalized medicine approach to the...
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Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS) remains a continuum spectrum disease without biomarkers or simple objective tests, and therefore relies on a diagnosis from a set of symptoms to link the assortment of brain and body disorders to ME/CFS. Although recent studies show...
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Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) is a complex disease with no known cause or mechanism. There is an increasing appreciation for the role of immune and metabolic dysfunction in the disease. ME/CFS has historically presented in outbreaks, often has a flu-like onset, and...
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Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/cfs) is classified by the World Health Organization as a disorder of the central nervous system. ME/cfs is an neuro-immune disorder accompanied by chronic low-grade inflammation, increased levels of oxidative and nitrosative stress (O&NS), O …
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Post-acute sequelae of COVID-19 can present as multi-organ pathology, with neuropsychiatric symptoms being the most common symptom complex, characterizing long COVID as a syndrome with a significant disease burden for affected individuals. Several typical symptoms of long COVID, such as fatigue...
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If mitochondrial dysfunction is only one pathway to ME/CFS, you’d expect related findings in just a subset of cases; not seeing it in everyone doesn’t refute the hypothesis. In heterogeneous cohorts, rare events like rhabdomyolysis could be missed (could be underpowered for this group of folks, testing to see the issue could be time-point specific, etc.). I’m not claiming it’s common or even proven; only that its absence at group level doesn’t disprove the hypothesis. I looked hard at rhabdo for a while, and there are case reports of rhabdo in ME/CFS/Long COVID patients - one I recall was an autopsy case from the UK; there were some other mentions on reddit and ME/CFS long hauler sites. So like all of these; they remain to be proven, but IMO anyway

remain a plausible, if uncommon, path.
Interesting. Even within trifunctional protein/β-oxidation/fatty-acid oxidation/OXPHOS, there are published findings; and many more across mitochondrial biology generally. If the hypothesis is that mitochondrial defects are one of several paths to ME/CFS, we wouldn’t expect to see them in everyone, which could explain why some larger studies don’t pan out. I’d be genuinely interested to hear whether others think mitochondrial defects plausibly account for a subset of patients. How do you (or others who discussed it) define broken mitochondria? I also have thought a lot about when samples were taken. In the mitochondrial disease world, we do see instances of people passing testing one day and not the next when they end up having a defect; mito/metabolomics can be like that.
So can I ask; what would be your take on rare causes of ME/CFS? honestly interested in general.