United Kingdom: ME Association governance issues

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  1. Robert 1973

    Robert 1973 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Just to clarify, approval is required (or not) from the CC (Charities Commission) not CH (Companies House).
     
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  2. Dx Revision Watch

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    You're welcome. Peter.

    Unfortunately, it is such a tangled mess that it is not possible to sum up in a couple of lines.

    I doubt you will, but if you were to receive a response from the MEA over the holidays I'd be very interested to see it as it may help inform my questions to Companies House.



    These are from the 2007 Articles:

    6. Allowed Payments


    6.1 The Charity may pay: -

    (a) Reasonable and proper payment to any officer or servant of the Charity
    who is not a member of its Board of Trustees for any services to the Company;​

    (b) Interest on the money lent by any member of the Charity or its Board of
    Trustees. The annual rate of interest must not be more than 2% below the
    base rate of the charity’s bank or a rate of 3% whichever is the greater;​

    (c) Reasonable out-of-pocket expenses to any member of the Board of Trustees;​

    (d) Reasonable and proper payment to a company of which a member of the
    Board of Trustees holds not more than a hundredth of the capital;​

    (e) Reasonable and proper rent of premises demised or let by any
    member of the Charity or its Board of Trustees;​

    (f) Any premium in respect of any indemnity insurance to cover the
    liability of the Board of Trustees which by virtue of any rule of law would otherwise attach to them in respect of any negligence, default, breach of trust or breach of duty of which they may be guilty in relation to the Charity; provided that any such insurance shall not extend to any claim arising from any act or omission which the Board of Trustees knew to be a breach of trust or breach of duty or which was committed by the Board of Trustees in reckless disregard of whether it was a breach of trust or breach of duty or not and provided also that any such insurance shall not extend to the costs of an unsuccessful defence to a criminal prosecution brought against the Board of Trustees in their capacity as Trustees of the Charity ;​

    (g) In exceptional cases other payments or benefits but only with the
    prior written approval of the Charity Commission.

    PROVIDED THAT no member of the Charity or the Board of Trustees shall be
    present during the discussion of or voting on any decision to borrow money from or
    pay rent or make a payment or give a benefit to that member.


    26. Payment of reasonable expenses to members of the Board of Trustees

    26.1 The members of the Board of Trustees may be paid reasonable out-of-pocket
    expenses that they have properly incurred in connection with the business of the
    Charity but shall not be paid any other remuneration save as permitted in the
    Memorandum of Association.

    All four versions contain the same clause about exceptional circumstances and approval from the CC: 2007, 2013, 2014 and the document that Riley has now posted on the site which he says is the "correct" 2014 Articles.

    [Apologies if the formatting of Articles 2007, article 6 Allowed Payments is a bit screwed up. I'll fix it later.]
     
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  3. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    I had a quick glance through the AfME Articles of Association at Companies House as an example for comparison, and there seemed to be no mention of any possibility of any trustees being paid for contract services. There was just the usual bit about expenses. And on the AfME website there was a note somewhere saying no trustees are paid by AfME apart from expenses.
    I'm too knackered now to find the references.
     
  4. Dx Revision Watch

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    This is the signed cover letter that accompanied the newly adopted 2013 Articles when the document was forwarded to Companies House for registration and filing. It certifies that the resolutions were carried and have been adopted by the membership.

    There were a number of resolutions being voted on in November 2013:

    1 (Underlined in yellow)
    a) To comply with the change in law for the need for a Company to have both a Memorandum and an Articles of Association to only requiring Articles of Association.
    b) To comply with changes in the Companies Act 2006 and Charities Act 2011 to the laws on how a company and a charity may operate.
    c) Provision by the Companies Act of a new model of Articles for Companies for which the Board proposed to adopt the major part for its new Articles.

    d) (Underlined in red) Some additional specific amendments. According to the summary of the November 2013 EGM these were changes to two articles for which the numbers were given as articles 24 and 29.


    [​IMG]


    This is the signed cover letter that accompanied the newly 2014 Articles when the document was forwarded to Companies House for registration.

    There appeared to be no resolutions for specific amendments. The only reason for filing new Articles in 2014 appeared to be in order to adopt the new [model] form of Articles of Association as a substitution for the "existing Memorandum and Articles of Association" (which would have been the 2013 Articles).

    But they had already covered adoption of the new model form in the 2013 resolutions.

    There is no mention of changing the text of article 28 (which had been changed in the document as was sent to Companies House). The document that Riley says should have been sent is almost identical to the document registered in November 2013 (apart from the change from "2000 Charity Act" in the 2013 Articles to "Trustee Act 2000" for 2014).

    So what was the point of filing a new Articles in 2014 if there were no changes to the Company and Charity law that had not already been covered by the previous year's resolution?


    [​IMG]
     
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  5. Dx Revision Watch

    Dx Revision Watch Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Do you all feel like you need to take your brains out, dump them in a colander and swill them under the cold tap?
     
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  6. Dx Revision Watch

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    He is a Trustee/Director who happens to be the person currently appointed to the role of Chairman. The Board could re-assign the office of Chairman to any of the other Trustees, tomorrow.

    I don't think he should be anywhere near the charity, either as a Trustee or a volunteer.
     
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  7. Arvo

    Arvo Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    In general or because of this? :laugh:

    There are lot of nuts and bolts, but it is not too bad. It's more that I keep being amazed at the claims that are made in relation to the known documentation.
     
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  8. Arvo

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    I don't think so too.

    Also, if I understand it right, members have a right to remove a trustee:

    Charity trustees: resignation and removal - GOV.UK

    See also Articles 7 and 25 in the AoA-Nov14
     
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  9. dave30th

    dave30th Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Ha! No problem. very helpful summary, even if longer than 2 sentences!
     
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  10. Dx Revision Watch

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    And they need to appoint a Company Secretary. It does not need to be a Trustee.
     
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  11. dave30th

    dave30th Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    what document is this??
     
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  12. Arvo

    Arvo Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    This also demonstrates (unless I'm mistaken - my brain is a tad wonky, but I think I'm right) that Art 28 section (a) from the AoA-Nov 13 (in use Nov 2013-Nov 2014) was an addition, not a continuation of existing situation.

    Between 2007 and 2013 there was no situation where companies owned by trustees could be hired for regular, non-exceptional services.
     
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  13. Jonathan Edwards

    Jonathan Edwards Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I think this refers to the version of the 2014 AoA that was posted on the MEA website for several years until this week it was taken down because it didn't include permission to pay for services. June 2018 might be when the citation of a legal Act was corrected. Presumably it was modified from what was in the 2014 version filed at CH. Nightsong gave us the histories for the three versions.
     
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  14. Robert 1973

    Robert 1973 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Presumably payments for goods or property would be considered 'other' payments.

    It seems to me that the two most likely scenarios are that either section (a) was added to allow payments to trustees for services without requiring CC permission; or section (a) was effectively removed and subsequently forgotten when payments were made to trustees for services.

    The removal of section (a) seems more consistent with the public records and the CC model document. However, it's also possible that the board and members decided that it was in the charity's best interests for services to be contracted to trustees without having to ask the CC for permission each time.

    I am hoping that the CC will have or acquire the paper trail to establish exactly what happened. Either way, it is clear that mistakes have been made and that Peter White was right to raise concerns. It's also clear that the concerns he raised have been dealt with very badly.

    My hope is that the outcome of all this is that the MEA will be better run charity, which better serves the interests of people with ME/CFS.
     
  15. Arvo

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    The document created on 3 March 2014, created at the exact same moment as the one that contained the text of the AoA of November 2014 as posted online (with this path file name) and registered with Companies House in the same month, was modified on 28 June 2018.

    This is not only and additional clue that the ME Association considered this text as their active AoA, but the modification falls directly in the period (June to July 2018) when they posted this text as their AoA online in their section on policy documents.

    It was removed recently because it was not the "real" AoA, according to the trustees of the ME Association.

    (I'm only hazy as to where that document can be found.)
     
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  16. dave30th

    dave30th Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    yes, very helpful! To clarify, which document allows for payments to trustees, and which does not??
     
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  17. Peter Trewhitt

    Peter Trewhitt Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I had thought that the one the chairman claims is the ‘real’ articles (see https://meassociation.org.uk/2024/12/mea-statement-regarding-articles-of-association/ ), linked to as the 2014 articles, but with the date 5/12/2013 in the pdf file name, allowed such payments. However I was corrected, see above, and it is not clear that even this one allows such payment.

    My head is spinning.
     
  18. Kitty

    Kitty Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Hear hear.

    And one that listens to the wider community a bit better. Their charitable objects are about providing services to people with ME, not only to their own membership.
     
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  19. Arvo

    Arvo Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    But did they do that with permission of the Charity Commission?

    It would go so against the basic guidance and principles of the Charity Commission as well. And I've seen a lot of procedural sloppyness from the ME Association. Also, updating your complete AoA in a new format/law adherence is a big project. This is pure speculation, but I would not be surprised if in the whole bustle of getting the project done, they forgot/neglected to ask CC permission in 2013 for the two Articles.

    Which might explain why it was dropped for its amendment.
     
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  20. Dx Revision Watch

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    This is the 2014 Articles.

    Using Wayback Machine, the MEA did not appear to post a copy on their site straight after the resolutions were adopted. For some time the 2013 Articles remained on the site. There are very few captures for the Policies and Documents pages on Wayback for the period 2014 to 2016. Unclear why, though it may be due to the MEA changing their platform.

    Anyhoo, the earliest I could find the 2014 Articles on Wayback is from around March 2019 and they remained on the site until Riley whipped them off in December and replaced them with another document.

    Possibly the file for the 2014 Articles was being prepared in 2018 for posting online but I don't know.
     

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