Blog: The Science Bit by Brian Hughes

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  1. Hoopoe

    Hoopoe Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Patients generally don't believe that psychotherapy can cure ME/CFS (or that psychological factors cause the illness). That's not dualistic thinking. That's just disagreement about the role of psychotherapy and psychological factors in the illness.
     
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    Excellent talk again from Brian Hughes. He is very good at clarifying and explaining.
     
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    and Brian knows how to do PowerPoint much better than me!!!
     
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  4. Barry

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    Just watched this. Superb @Brian Hughes. You have a way of seeing the wood despite the trees, hitting the nail on the head, cutting through the cr@p, and most importantly, getting it across in a way that is easily digestible to many audiences. There are so many strawman arguments and misdirections bandied about that are superficially very convincing to the unaware, which includes many professionals. Thankyou and well done, as always :).
     
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    Just fantastic - thank you @Brian Hughes. Loved this touch, complementing the later on —

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  6. Barry

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    Yes, I mean can MS really believe what he is saying here! It shows him to either be grossly incompetent and/or grossly unprofessional.
     
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    Why not both?
     
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    Absolutely!
     
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    Contrary to the BPS naysayers, there are objective measures that indicate physical dysfunction caused by ME.

    For example, research findings of autonomic dysfunction involved in ME are gaining in number. Link to follow later.
     
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    Hence my "and/or" ... allows for both ;)
     
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    bobbler Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Really nice c
    Gosh this should be taken on board

    how worrying but well done Brian

    this is also great for any of us seeking concise explainers to those around for the common classics like ‘but CBT is a good add on anyway’ presumptions

    I’m really pleased to start seeing factual language stating the level of honesty/responsibility hiding behind pretend earnestness (that they call often ‘good intentions’ but aren’t as they don’t intend to follow through on checking what they do doesn’t harm and taking that on board if it does).

    And saying frankly there needs to be acknowledgement of the risk of an issue of patients being seen as ‘opportunities’ by some who are lobbying etc to sell certain supply-led services
     
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    Actually not just for those in Canada, anyone can provide comments. I don't know if they analyze them differently but it's open.

    It has been shared on the long haulers sub-reddit and many sent comments. Everyone is appalled and baffled at what the hell is going on with medicine being so detached from reality.
     
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    Arnie Pye Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Could you supply a link, please.

    Edit : Found it.

     
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    Peter Trewhitt Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    It really is bizarre that the BPS fantasists can coexist in a world with genuine scholars like Brian Hughes who can point out their logical flaws and errors of scientific fact with such facility.

    Thinking back to when I was a psychology undergraduate, getting on for fifty years ago, there was such possibilities, but now large chunks of medical science feel to have regressed in its understanding to the magical thinking of such as psychoanalysis of over a hundred years ago.
     
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