BPS attempts at psychologizing Long Covid

Mentioned earlier the year 1988. This happens in the same year....https://twitter.com/user/status/1320668668234223617

 

The reaction to the "Where There's Life" programme from Yorkshire TV in 1988....https://twitter.com/user/status/1335293060406784002

 

https://twitter.com/user/status/1335246667159924740

 

We may end up there by different pathways but there’s often some kind of connection.

 

Ah yes, Mr "Historian of medicine" out there pretending the lack of an association with acute disease severity means the psychosomatic model is correct, even though it has always, ALWAYS, been argued that it must be one of the main predictors, essentially the scary event that causes all the panic. I mean seriously this was argued ad nauseam and here they just do a full 180 spin as if they never said any of this. Of course when inconvenient the opposite has also often been argued but always going back and forth depending on what's convenient.

This thing where "experts" are allowed to endlessly speculate and bullshit, oftentimes completely reversing their position on some fundamental aspects without ever changing any of the consequences they have endlessly argued about, is really not working out and really needs to stop. None of this is normal. In any other field of expertise such people would rightfully considered to be cranks without any credibility.

NONE of this is normal. This is the exact opposite of what expertise is supposed to be about.

 

It's weird reading this and reconciling with some people trying to distance ME from LC by saying shortness of breath isn't a symptom of ME. Even more weird reconciling the fact that the very same people dismissing the hyperventilation here have always argued that the only symptom of ME is fatigue.

Almost like they're completely full of it. Almost.

 

Is there any proof of this, or is this just speculation based on coincidence?

 

In my experience these sort of folk operate on the principle of plausible deniability, and operating well below the radar. It is their modus operandi. Given what we know of their history, the likelihood of them not "reaching out" as it suits them seem pretty implausible to me. But I grant you, that is hardly evidence.

 

Just an educated guess - based on known associations between the Guardian, SMC, SW & Goldacre. But this really does belong in the "Who is SW?" thread.

Macavity, Macavity, there’s no one like Macavity,
There never was a Cat of such deceitfulness and suavity.
He always has an alibi, and one or two to spare:
At whatever time the deed took place—MACAVITY WASN’T THERE!

 

During the epidemics people who were active were more likely to get ME, for instance in a convent that was also a teacher training college, the pupils got ME, the nuns did not. In polio activity was associated with symptoms too.

It is possible that people with mild disease get LC because they stay active, not saying it is true but it is a possible explanation that does not involve anything psychosomatic.

Some of what they are saying sounds like a moral judgement. Heroes get really sick but losers who are looking for attention exaggerate their symptoms and feel sorry for themselves.

 

@Mithriel The 1918 flu epidemic hit healthy adults (age 20-40) really badly. Nobody knows why.

 

Here is one explanation:

 

Thanks for the link. Shows how long it is since I looked at the Spanish pandemic, as I hadn't come across this one. It's plausible, and better focused on young adults than the usual suspects such as malnutrition.

 

IAPT Post-COVID Syndrome Training Webinars

https://cptraininghub.nhs.uk/event/iapt-post-covid-syndrome-training-webinars/

 

"
Using low intensity interventions to help people recover after COVID
Tuesday 12 January 2021, 1pm – 3pm"

 

As psychoeducational programmes have such an impressive impact on other post-viral conditions they assume it will work with post-covid?!

 

@Joan Crawford @PhysiosforME

 

Yup. It looks every bit as bad as it sounds. The whole IAPT-LTC program is a complete disaster and of course they want to expand it because the hammer does not distinguish between nails and other objects but once flattened out everything can look like a flattened nail if you want to.