Do adolescents w/CFS/ME & co-morbid anxiety &/or depressive symptoms think differently to those who do not have co-morbid psychopathology?,2020,Loades

[ME/CFS Skeptic]

"The final model including both the negative cognitive errors and the unhelpful cognitive responses subscales together accounted for 52% of the variance in psychopathology symptom score."

52% is really a lot, perhaps the questionnaires are measuring the same things rather than explaining things?

 

[JemPD]

Some of those questions are absurd as a measure of depression/anxiety!

Feeling nervous before taking a test.... i never met anyone who didnt. I mean i know some people dont, but surely the majority of people, regardless of age, feel nervous before an exam/test. Pop by a driving test centre & you'll see people who are not anxious in normal daily life, shaking.

 

[FMMM1]

Is it just me, or is this stuff from Crawley and Loades getting increasingly ridiculous, and dangerous for the children in their care.
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Maybe, just maybe, those kids' thoughts are an accurate interpretation of their physical symptoms and sensible caution about the effects trying to increase activity will have on their physical health.

What am I missing here?

(note - I have only read the abstract. I can't face it the full article. I leave that to those with stronger stomachs)

Yea if CBT & GET are not evidenced treatments for ME/CFS in adults (new guidelines) then how come these folks are being paid shed loads of money to "research", and presumably prepare care plans based on, these unevidenced treatments?
Surely the least the public research bodies should do is require objective monitoring of funded trials, rather than continuing to fund "low" or "very low" quality research (research based on subjective outcome indicators) - the whole thing is just bizarre.

 

[NelliePledge]

I’m going to say it. That questionnaire is Tripe.

 

[Sly Saint]

quote from the paper:

"This was cross-sectional study using data collected at baseline in the FITNET-NHS trial."

see my "see also" link in first post.

https://www.s4me.info/threads/fitnet-nhs-esther-crawley-5th-protocol-out-now.8053/#post-187750

"found this in a pdf relating to 9th World Congress of Behavioural and Cognitive therapies (Berlin July 17-20 2019)."

I have no idea where they are up to on the FITNET-NHS trial as they are at least on version 7 of the protocol and appear to be using the data as they go along.
The last update I read said the trial would continue until well into 2022 and publication would not be until 2023.

 

[chrisb]

Pop by a driving test centre & you'll see people who are not anxious in normal daily life, shaking.

And that is just the examiners.