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Does Covid-19 vaccination reduce the risk of Long Covid?

Discussion in 'Epidemiology (incidence, prevalence, prognosis)' started by Peter Trewhitt, Jul 7, 2021.

  1. Peter Trewhitt

    Peter Trewhitt Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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  2. Wonko

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    It seems unlikely there ever will be any evidence, at least in the UK, as it would appear they are not interested in collecting it, and even if they are they are not interested in releasing it.

    Been plenty of time, and nothing, and now they appear to be attempting to close down 'discussion' about long covid.
     
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    (Could not find this article on the forum - hope this is not a duplicate post!)

    Not peer reviewed - hoping those who understand the issues will comment. Thanks!

    Long-COVID symptoms less likely in vaccinated people, Israeli data say
     
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    Hutan Moderator Staff Member

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    That's another article in Nature that doesn't psychologise or downplay the problem of Long Covid.

    There was a November 2021 Nature article
    Do vaccines protect against long COVID? What the data say
    that noted the difficulty in studying the question because so many of the Covid infections, especially post-vaccination, are asymptomatic or only mild symptomatic.
    The rapid reduction in the utility of vaccinations over time, perhaps especially for Omicron, will be another problem in trying to sort out whether vaccinations help.
     
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    The new variants seem to have different tissue affinities too, with Omicron less likely to damage lung tissues for example. That might turn out to be important. I expect more studies, more data, more confounds to arise on this question this year.
     
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    Saw this article in The Guardian:

    Coronavirus vaccines may reduce risk of long Covid, ONS study finds
     
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    But surely that flies in the face of all the research and expert opinion that says that both covid and long covid are entirely caused by people knowing about them?

    Coz, presumably, people who have been double-vaccinated must have heard of covid and must therefore, according to the research, and experts, be much more likely to report long covid symptoms?

    Than those who haven't heard of covid, or long covid, who do not report long covid symptoms, according to the research and experts.

    I just wish these people/research/experts would keep telling me what to believe.
     
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    Oh, the people spewing nonsense about "cultural illness" have no problem holding incompatible thoughts. LC deniers will happily talk about both without giving any thought about what either means. It's pretty incredible how common doublethink is, and medicine is frankly highly susceptible to it.

    That's basically how we got stuff like the intersection between mind and body, or whatever. You can bet the line would be something about how vaccination reduces people's fears. Or whatever, doublethink doesn't care what's true and isn't.

    If anything, the pandemic has exposed just how common it is. It's literally front-and-center and guiding decisions. It's, uh, not ideal.
     
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    Obviously we need to think about the names we give to variants, as it is quite clear that some names are more likely to induce cultural angst than others. Names with only 2 syllables (alpha, beta, gamma, delta) tend to cause an increased risk of perceived long-covid than those with three syllables (omicron). Names with 2 syllables separated by a hyphen have been particularly problematic (kung-flu). What we really need is funding for a comprehensive psycholinguistic analysis.
     
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