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House of Lords: Govt discussions with NICE on ME/CFS (Main Chamber) Tuesday, 12 October 2021

Discussion in '2020 UK NICE ME/CFS Guideline' started by Sly Saint, Sep 15, 2021.

  1. Arvo

    Arvo Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    My transcript is slightly different:

    (Added because I think the "or" and "'cause'" make it clearer that pointing to NICE's independence was a direct result of him rectifying himself.)
     
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  2. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    A "first principle" that goes about as long as in a typical Star Trek episode.

    "Oh noes, we can't possibly intervene in this society", proceeds to intervene a whole lot because, you know, circumstances. Hmm.
     
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  3. Adrian

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    I think some people still do (its still used)- just not pregnant women.
     
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  4. Adrian

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    I think with John Prescott they always went through an editing process to make the meaning clear.
     
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  5. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Rather like the way many people still find exercise helpful ... just not pwME.
     
  6. Mithriel

    Mithriel Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    And thalidomide is prescribed with all sorts of safeguards and caveats.

    If someone is recovering from ME, a safe exercise program could be very useful to strengthen muscles. Workwell are trying to find safe ways in which severe ME patients can avoid contractures and muscle wasting.

    The thing is that it must be done with a full knowledge of ME problems.
     

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