Neutralization of AAB Targeting G-Protein Coupled Receptors Improves Capillary Impairment and fatigue ... after COVID-19 Infection, 2021, Hohberger

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  1. Snow Leopard

    Snow Leopard Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Which ones? There are so many! ;)
     
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    Not sure, they said so in their new published hypophesis. Not sure if they specified
     
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    Merged thread
    Diagnose und Therapie von ME/CFS: Was lässt sich aus Long COVID lernen?
    Google Translate: Diagnosing and treating ME/CFS: what can be learned from Long COVID?
    A better translation

    This one is rather interesting. The team at Erlangen gave BC-007 to an ME patient, and she experienced dramatic improvement:

    This is sure to increase the attention BC-007 has been attracting over the past year or so. While I'm not incredibly hyped, we all want to see a trial to see if these dramatic anecdotes stand up to actual science. Also, what's with them giving unapproved drugs to people outside trials? Is this common in Europe?

    Edit: I hope this thread is in the right place. I'm new here.
     
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    See also an article on BC-007 by Cort Johnson in Health Rising, Dec 30 2021
    Berlin Cures…? Could BC 007 Help With Long COVID and ME/CFS?” See https://www.healthrising.org/blog/2...in-cures-long-covid-chronic-fatigue-syndrome/
     
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    I do find some of the autoimmunity theories out there quite compelling, especially the one by prof. Scheibenbogen. However, something that needs to be reconciliated is the fact that immune suppressing drugs have failed to show results (Rituximab, Corticosteroids, etc.). I do not know how, but maybe there could be some explanation. A layman hypothesis of mine is that maybe the autoimmunity in CFS is driven by a part of the immune system those drugs can not target, possibly some part of it that is even unknown to current day science.

    As far as BC-007 goes, I do have hopes for it, but I wouldn't keep them too high. Namely the evidence so far is quite scant. That being said, we must absolutely follow these reports up with trials and I think they are doing that already.
     
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    The three blinded RCTs of hydrocortisone did show an effect, though the medical community deemed it not worth the side effects.
     
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    Didn't know that. That seems like quite an important finding then that is not talked about. If they deemed it not worth the sides then the effect was probably not that great though, hence why it is not talked about.

    That being said, corticosteroids working does resonate with my personal experience. Namely, I mentioned in other threads that I benefit from being under stress or triggering a fight / flight response, albeit with the risk of PEM later. I always attributed this to cortisol and / or adrenaline release.
     
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    If the autoimmunity is very specific and subtle, such as just creation of the autoantibodies that BC-007 targets, could that explain it?
     

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