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Midnattsol said:
ME appears on the list of most cited diagnoses for young people on disability in Norway. Of those 18-29 on disability 3.9% are disabled due to Postviral fatigue syndrome/ME

Numbers can be found here
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Impressive for a condition that doesn't even exist and has had 100% effective treatments for decades, if we weren't so stupid. Or whatever.

How does it go again? Oh, yeah: reality is "that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” - Philip K dick.
 
rvallee said:
Impressive for a condition that doesn't even exist and has had 100% effective treatments for decades, if we weren't so stupid. Or whatever.

How does it go again? Oh, yeah: reality is "that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.” - Philip K dick.
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Didn’t you know that kids dream of being on disability benefits instead of getting and education and job, and starting a family?

Got to think of the secondary gains, man!
 
Utsikt said:
3.9 % out of 22,400 = ~870 pwME/CFS on disability between the ages of 18-29. Although the number is probably higher because GPs can’t use G93.3 in Norway.
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When it comes so far as to be a disability payment question, I think most would have received an ICD code in their records as they would have visisted specialist services at some point. In contrast to for sick-leave payments where a GP can code A04 "fatigue" and that's enough for that particular type of social benefit.


But I agree the numbers are probably higher. One thing is the lack of ICD-10 in GP offices, another is that some are recommended to not apply for benefits with their ME/CFS diagnosis, rather with something else they may have that is more recognized. Despite ME being the most disabling condition.
 
Utsikt said:
Got to think of the secondary gains, man!
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More seriously, I think the secondary gains claim is actually a good angle of attack against the psycho-behavioural crowd.

Ask them what the alleged 'gains' are, as compared to the obvious major losses. Do a compare and contrast. There is no world in which any fair assessment is going to come out in favour of their ludicrous and cruel claim.
 
Sean said:
More seriously, I think the secondary gains claim is actually a good angle of attack against the psycho-behavioural crowd.

Ask them what the alleged 'gains' are, as compared to the obvious major losses. Do a compare and contrast. There is no world in which any fair assessment is going to come out in favour of their ludicrous and cruel claim.
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I’ve seen some of them claim that pwME/CFS are not able to cope with the demands of being healthy, so they cope by acting/being sick so their life is much more limited.

That obviously ignores how incredibly demanding it is to be severely ill, especially for a long time.
 
Midnattsol said:
Follow up to this, it has been revealed that the wife has been institutionalised and spent time in rehabilitation and treatment travels and apparently she applied to an exception to avoid to pay a tax when selling her home (the rule is that you have to pay tax unless you have lived in the house/apartment/etc for the majority of the last two years). The exception she applied for is called a "brukshindring" which translates to "something that makes you unable to use". An example of this could be needing to be institutionalised or suddenly needing a wheelchair when the home cannot accomodate it.

I wonder if this can set a precedence for other pwME if it the application was accepted, that would also mean that the tax office sees ME as a debilitating illness. At least they would seem abmle to look at the symptoms not just see the diagnosis and go "not serious enough".

The defense chief's wife with new information in the housing case
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This was a while ago, but do you know how the tax case ended?

If I have to sell my apartment, it would be good to know if I can avoid paying taxes because I’ve had to move back to my parents due to ME/CFS.
 
Utsikt said:
This was a while ago, but do you know how the tax case ended?

If I have to sell my apartment, it would be good to know if I can avoid paying taxes because I’ve had to move back to my parents due to ME/CFS.
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No, and I couldn't find a relevant case at https://www.skatteetaten.no/rettskilder/type/vedtak/ when searching for "brukshindring". It's frustrating we don't have a ruling on it.
 
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