News from The Netherlands

[Alinda]

Did you see this info? You can ask for a reassessment if you were denied for not doing GET of CBT.

https://www.uwv.nl/nl/arts/herbeoordeling-me-cvs

But it wouldn't mean anything if the "arbeidsdeskundige" decides you aren't fully disabled anyway. As they don't even really know about your medical situation or treatments.

I definitely think I could have gotten the benefits if I was more sick. But if you aren't bedbound it really seems impossible to qualify for them (unless you decide to lie..), as they have written out my disabilities and needs very well (in the parts that I managed to read, at least) but still found possible tasks.

(thank you for the link though! The one about this that I found previously was only about WIA.)

 

[Turtle]

Just got denied a few days ago, they say I can work for 2 hours a day and need to do more CBT and GET - thus I am denied and will be forced to either stay in school for as long as possible or be fully dependent on family.

I cannot comprehend how stupid the people that came up with these laws must have been.

 

[Sean]

This will make a lot of people very stressed.

And worse.

 

[Dolphin]

This was posted on a list I’m on. Note: they call lots of things quackery, I haven’t dug into what it is about myself.

Programme: Zembla
Station: NPO-2 TV
Date: April 9, 2026
Time: 20:15-21:00 BST (19:15-20:00 UTC, 21:15-22:00 CET)
WebTV: https://npo.nl/start/live/npo2
WebTV: Rerun,
https://npo.nl/start/serie/zembla/afleveringen/seizoen-26
With subtitles,
https://www.youtube.com/@ZEMBLA_BNNVARA
URL: Google translation from Dutch to English,

https://www-bnnvara-nl.translate.go...-medicijn?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

Item: Quackery and (Post-)Covid

 

[Dolphin]

This was posted on a list I’m on. Note: they call lots of things quackery, I haven’t dug into what it is about myself.

Programme: Zembla
Station: NPO-2 TV
Date: April 9, 2026
Time: 20:15-21:00 BST (19:15-20:00 UTC, 21:15-22:00 CET)
WebTV: https://npo.nl/start/live/npo2
WebTV: Rerun,
https://npo.nl/start/serie/zembla/afleveringen/seizoen-26
With subtitles,
https://www.youtube.com/@ZEMBLA_BNNVARA
URL: Google translation from Dutch to English,

https://www-bnnvara-nl.translate.go...-medicijn?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

Item: Quackery and (Post-)Covid

This was posted on a list I’m on. Note: they call lots of things quackery, I haven’t dug into what it is about myself.

[Since yesterday, the version with multilingual subtitles has been available on YouTube]

Programme: Zembla
Station: NPO-2 TV
Date: April 9 and 14, 2026
WebTV: Dutch original,
https://npo.nl/start/afspelen/zembla_134
WebTV: With multilingual subtitles,

URL: Google translation from Dutch to English,

https://www-bnnvara-nl.translate.go...-medicijn?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
Rem: The paper by Amsterdam University Medical Center authors has been retracted.

Item: Quackery and Post-Covid

 

[Turtle]

This is really horrible.
Experimenting on LC patients.
Just lidocaine was less than one euro, needed several a day, adding a sugar molecule and a new patent, cost went up to 25 euro's per injection.
The new formula had not been tested on patients.
Passing out while the needle is still in the body?
That's not what I call safe.

 

[Alinda]

We have a thread of the study somewhere

 

[Jesse]

This was posted on a list I’m on. Note: they call lots of things quackery, I haven’t dug into what it is about myself.

[Since yesterday, the version with multilingual subtitles has been available on YouTube]

Programme: Zembla
Station: NPO-2 TV
Date: April 9 and 14, 2026
WebTV: Dutch original,
https://npo.nl/start/afspelen/zembla_134
WebTV: With multilingual subtitles,

URL: Google translation from Dutch to English,

https://www-bnnvara-nl.translate.go...-medicijn?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en
Rem: The paper by Amsterdam University Medical Center authors has been retracted.

Item: Quackery and Post-Covid

Thanks for sharing. Infuriating.

We have a thread of the study somewhere

Yes I remember. Members here destroyed that study in 5 minutes. Noted the conflict of interest etc.

Edit: thread here.

 

[Dolphin]

This was posted to a list I’m on:

Programme: EenVandaag
Station: NPO-1 TV
Date: April 23, 2026
WebTV: 0:19 in Dutch
https://npo.nl/start/afspelen/eenvandaag_6216
Text: Google translation from Dutch to English

https://eenvandaag-avrotros-nl.tran...ld-163444?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

Item: Dutch government ends support to post-Covid patients.

 

[Alinda]

Facebook

www.facebook.com

Message from several patient organizations announcing that the new guidelines (supposed to be released 1st of may) have been delayed (again!)..

 

[Dolphin]

This was posted to a list I’m on:

Dutch rheumatologists revise FM: Biopsychosocial model.

From now on, FM is considered a psychiatric disorder in The Netherlands.
The Society of Rheumatologists adheres to the 'biopsychosocial model'.

Google-translation from Dutch to English,

https://www-mednet-nl.translate.goo...ssing-is/?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

The new definition itself (in Dutch) is on,

https://www.nvr.nl/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Standpunt-Fibromyalgie-2025-DEF.pdf

 

[Jonathan Edwards]

Google-translation from Dutch to English,

It reads like a bad AI summary that does not add up.

 

[Jesse]

Facebook

www.facebook.com

Message from several patient organizations announcing that the new guidelines (supposed to be released 1st of may) have been delayed (again!)..

That's so disappointing. Been waiting for this one. The way it's worded also does not make me hopeful it will come anytime soon.

Worst part imo is letting the deadline pass and then coming with an update like 2 weeks later.. they obviously knew they were not gonna make it for a long time already..

 

[Alinda]

That's so disappointing. Been waiting for this one. The way it's worded also does not make me hopeful it will come anytime soon.

Worst part imo is letting the deadline pass and then coming with an update like 2 weeks later.. they obviously knew they were not gonna make it for a long time already..

Agree. I would rather wait and have a good guideline, but I just cannot comprehend how they didn't put anything out on time. Yesterday I couldn't even find anything about the delay other then this facebook post! I hope they have at least published it on a website by now...

 

[Turtle]

It reads like a bad AI summary that does not add up.

It's in the genes and the solution is: don't ask a rheumatologist, go see a physio or psychologist; they "educate" patients.

 

[rvallee]

This was posted to a list I’m on:

Dutch rheumatologists revise FM: Biopsychosocial model.

From now on, FM is considered a psychiatric disorder in The Netherlands.
The Society of Rheumatologists adheres to the 'biopsychosocial model'.

Google-translation from Dutch to English,

https://www-mednet-nl.translate.goo...ssing-is/?_x_tr_sl=nl&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

The new definition itself (in Dutch) is on,

https://www.nvr.nl/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Standpunt-Fibromyalgie-2025-DEF.pdf

King BPS is dead, long live emperor BPS, may he live the same way, for the same reasons, with the same everything, in the same palace, throne room and so on. It simplifies things, no need to change addresses for services or even change letterheads. Just scratch king and write in emperor whenever someone makes a fuss about it.

Even industry greenwashing efforts are capable of showing more sincerity and effort, and they're all worthless. The only expert profession to not only be regressing, but to massively regress, based on nothing at all, just the same old ideas recycled infinitely, with zero leadership, courage or ambition to be found anywhere.