Oxaloacetate Treatment For Mental And Physical Fatigue In (ME/CFS) and Long-COVID fatigue patients, 2022, Cash and Kaufman

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  1. Trish

    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    I wondered about that. Surely if you're going to call something a clinical trial, you have to provide the treatment free.
     
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    I used to take oxaloacetate and felt a little more energy and a slight mood elevation. I had to stop, though, because even though I took it as soon as I woke up, it had a negative effect on my sleep. This kind of reaction is very common for me.
     
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    FYI, in October 2023, the journal added this disclaimer to the top of the page:
     
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    I hadn’t been made aware of this so I don’t know if this editor’s note came about based off of my reanalysis or someone else’s report, but I’m glad that it has been added. Thank you for posting about it.
     
  6. Sid

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    I've seen the attitude you refer to and it's very dangerous. You will still have ME/CFS afterwards, only without a house/car.
     
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    I wouldn't even pay $500 to see the "best" clinician for this. It's not even close to be worth it. I've seen so many terrible stories about some of them, and anyway I know they have nothing useful to offer.
     
  8. Milo

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    Honestly, and not related to this doctor, validation is a good mental health booster when someone face so much hostility at home in primary care. Secondly these doctors know how to explain the disabling aspect of the disease and help support the disability benefits that are so crucial for our patient population.

    it was by visiting one of our experts that I was put on medication for POTS and also got my disability insurance. Treatment attempts for ME were unsuccessful but I am thankful to have had a go after doing my own research.
     
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    If expert provider’s do anything it should be putting you in the best position to get disability, as @Milo spoke to. Both speaking about the disease in ways that prepare you for the possibility emotionally (especially if you’re on the edge functionally at work) and doing the tests and writing the letters that will support your app. Not all do. Many offer implicit, sometimes explicit promises of wellness that while maybe helpful in some ways as an emotional bridge, in my view make it harder to see how this new life becomes possible.
     

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