Paul Garner on Long Covid and ME/CFS - BMJ articles and other media.

It sure ain't

 

Maureen Hanson sums up the whole sorry saga:
https://twitter.com/user/status/1354464342947860487

"The BMJ article from Paul Garner shows the danger of assuming that the course of long COVID will be the same as ME/CFS. One thing that does occur in both illnesses is false attribution of the causes of recovery" [the meme in the tweet is good, too]

 

I just wonder if they had a DR who had been through chemo then took up LP and claimed it was the LP that cured them whether the BMJ would have published it. Somehow I think they would have intervened. Personally Paul Garner comes across as having lost rational thinking on his situation and therefor should have remained unpublished.

 

I read that he was on the BBC this morning, talking about how he recovered from CFS.

Seems like the anti-ME/CFS propaganda has started.

 

Don't like to be picky with our friends, but sometimes we must. With reference to that tweet from Maureen Hanson, what is the course of ME/CFS? It seems to have a multiplicity of courses, in line with its probably heterogeneous nature.

 

He was, with everyone's favourite person - Clare Gerada.

I don't know when it started but the segment ended at 8.45am, on the BBCs 'Breakfast' program this morning.

 

I wonder when the BMJ decided to become the newspaper equivalent of the daily mail? Was it always like this? It seems to have deteriorated recently from what was a very low base. Sadly it’s pretty much anything I read in it nowadays.

my personal view is that regardless of the quality of the journal he is publishing in, this guy needs to be accountable for his actions as a professional. We should stop trying to apply pop psychology to understand or allow for his actions. He is a patient as well but as far as I’m concerned he is just another snake oil salesman whether that’s because he is gullible or not is neither here nor there.

he has made non-evidenced claims in his professional capacity and is publishing in a professional journal (I use the word loosely). This is very different to a patient mouthing off on Twitter or whatever.

His actions stand on their own. I’m afraid he has abused his position to get airtime for his crackpot ideas and that is unforgivable.

he is unprofessional by the evidence.

builders who construct something with substandard materials are no different...other than they can be held to account professionally and appropriate punishment metered out to discourage them and others. We don’t concern ourselves that the builder was having a bad day or wasn’t thinking straight so why give this guy any allowance?

 

FOR FUCK'S SAKE !!!!!!!

God this shit is depressing.

 

He does like a military metaphor, doesn't he? So here is a question. If you are looking down the barrel of a gun, and the trigger is not pulled, have you disarmed the gun?

 

Are Claire Gerada and Trish Greenalgh fully recovered?

 

No, they both have a severe case of BPS (Bullshit Pseudoscience Syndrome).

 

I think this is more insidious - long covid is being recast and the usual BPS methods are being shown as effective. The status quo not only prevails but the net is cast wider

 

Just wondering if everyone feels there is a differance between his recent bmj opinion piece and his previous ones. Were they all unprofessional? Were some within the bmj opinion brief and others not?

 

He didn't recover from cfs because he was never diagnosed with it. The only thing he can claim is that he recovered from covid/long covid. I could say I was diagnosed with celiac disease and recovered from it but I never did either.

 

hmm, can't think who he's been talking to(?) He'll be using nautical metaphors soon.

 

I wonder whether he'll go back as far as WW2, and "Is your journey really necessary?"

 

Can we watch this talk on the BBC anywhere?

 

You can watch on BBC iPlayer, here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000rpsz
"This episode will be available soon..."

 

available soon on iplayer
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000rpsz
maybe someone could record it?

 

It's available now, watch from 2:39:25.