Paul Garner on Long Covid and ME/CFS - BMJ articles and other media.

Posts moved from BPS attempts at psychologizing #LongCovid


Garner sharing his latest wisdom

https://twitter.com/user/status/1401149065908428809

 

His source is from 1977. I love this reply to him (click on the gif in the tweet):

 

https://twitter.com/user/status/1400430174605357058

 

I think this guy knows exactly what he is doing. He knows the truth about ME/CFS, but when he recovered from long covid, he decided to join the BPS lot for the sake of his career.

 

Seems Paul Garner is going to be speaking on an upcoming RCGP webinar about long covid. Very disturbing news.

https://rcgpportal.force.com/s/lt-event?id=a1U1i000006D4uyEAC&site=a0d0Y00000AeOP6QAN

 

David F. Marks: Can Long-Covid be Cures with the Mind: Expert Patient or Nutty Professor? Guest authored by dr. Keith Geraghty

Quote:
Paul Garner’s recovery may have had very little to do with his mind, yet his mind now tells him it was the most important factor. That is perhaps the true power of the mind. The mind subjectively validates the stories you tell about yourself.

In his early media posts Garner said pacing helped, and also diet, sleep, rest, accommodating to the virus and setting up a self-help support group, all before the magical mind guru entered his Long-Covid tale.

This researcher wishes Professor Garner continued good health, but remains concerned that Long-Covid NHS care planning could be influenced by anecdotal stories; we must listen to all patients and be evidence-led.

 

What is military style training anyway? Presumably the exercise regimen for the Parachute regiment is vastly different to that for recruits to the transport corps.

 

It's one of those exercise groups for people who liked being shouted at by men in camouflage gear.

 

Now I get it. He likes obeying orders does he?

 

I was going to say this! I used to see those people in the park at the weekend before I got ill, being shouted at by a man in an army shirt and carrying a heavy bag, for "training" on a Sunday. Who is going to tell him that it's not military training? You're just paying someone in a military-style outfit to pretend you're in the military. Who is going to tell him?

 

In the old days the military physical training that got picked up by civilians (the routine was on a card) was mostly calisthenics.

 

https://twitter.com/user/status/1401585820457373700


It's disappointing that it takes personal experience to get it but I am still glad it can lead to change, even in people who make exercise rehabilitation their career. Simple-but-wrong-solutions are wrong, and that's all that matters, simple doesn't change that.

 

I was wasting my time. Reply from the director of the BBC ECU:

How stupid of me not to have understood that Dr Gerada was talking in “general, colloquial terms” rather than spouting offensive, unscientific nonsense.

I wonder if she was speaking in general colloquial terms when she made that training video promoting exercise therapy for ME/CFS: https://t.co/vRnyL6RrDN?amp=1

[edited formatting of ECU letter]

 

Not read the article yet, but can't believe the title is a good idea.

 

https://twitter.com/user/status/1401792455117246465

 

Quote from the director of the BBC ECU:

It seems to me her language echoed the general advice given by the NHS and the UK Chief Medical Officers with regard to exercise. The NHS website says, for example, “Adults should do some type of physical activity every day. Any type of activity is good for you. The more you do the better”.

https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/?tabname=how-much-exercise

They actually don't exclude any health condition for their advice on physical activity for adults aged 19 to 64, just explicitly include

• disabled adults
  
• pregnant women and new mothers

with those exceptions:

When you start exercising after pregnancy, make sure your physical activity choices reflect your activity levels before pregnancy. You should include strength training.

After your 6 to 8 week postnatal check, you can start to do more intense activities if you feel you're able to. Vigorous activity is not recommended if you were inactive before pregnancy.

Couldn't find any info about the authors of the guidance.

@PhysiosforME

@Snow Leopard

@Jonathan Edwards

 

Tagging also @adambeyoncelowe and @Keela Too in case that's relevant for NICE.