'Recovery Is Possible: Lessons in ‘ME/CFS’ Recovery from YouTube [Goldsmiths]

Recollections may vary.
and there is definitely an issue re 'polluting' and post-hoc (eg false memory syndrome/eye witness testimony issues) when the tiny cohort has been collected specifically from a small base of advocates who did and 'want to be part of' a specific programme that it seems from the blurbs and what we hear of it tells people that's what they heard from a doctor, even if that isn't what happened.

it as an analogy seems to compare to something like a face-cream company asking an intern to do research by collecting up the stories from its 75 enthusiastic participants with their biggest influencers that tell them 'nothing else worked before' , maybe pointing out parts of their face they mightn't have noticed (because there wasn't an issue with dry skin there) and so on in conversation after conversation. and then interviews them with leading questions.

Except instead of it being for marketing purposes a la the 90s with people who mostly don't believe anti-ageing is going to actually take 20yrs off them it is someone who is an academic - who if looking at any of these claimed 'social' or sub-subjects within it such as 'media' from an actual academic or research point of view could be investigating the techniques that mean some of those most caught up by a programme or situation combining with it (knowing it markets to those surrounding ill people which directly affects support and coerces them to 'give x a try even if it seems nonsense just to show willing with mum/dad/partner etc' who is all very keen for them to get better for various reasons, and might feel less helpful if they are being told all the help they've had to give needn't have been necessary if etc.
 
In addition to the good questions that Peter T lists in that post, there is another. How many of the people claiming recovery recovered in the first years after becoming ill? We know recovery from ME/CFS is very common in the first two years, more common than not.

I am actually in agreement with these evangelists that it would be better if the high recovery rates in early years was better known and reported. It would probably reduce despair and reduce the chance of people attributing their recovery to their superior mindset and whatever treatment they were trying at the time. It would make people less vulnerable to the sorts of ideas pushed by that report.


I think this comment might say something about some of the people in this study reporting recovery. If the alternative is suicide, that's a powerful incentive to reinterpret the person's current state, not as ill health, but as a choice of another way of life. I suspect some of the people claiming recovery have just stopped their busy (normal) lifestyle and accepted a slower, less active life, interpreting that as a good thing.


It seems to me that this is the sort of report insurance medicine and govt welfare organisations want. Being able to suggest that recovery is possible, that ME/CFS/LC is not almost certainly a life long condition if the person wants to recover enough makes it possible to deny insurance claims. Getting that sort of message into government advice would be powerful.

It would be interesting to 'follow the money' - where did the funding come from, and who funds the funders?
Do we even know details such as whether more people theoretically could have volunteered because they didn't have a great time, but were 'excluded' because they didn't say the right narrative to be included in this so-called research?

It's really quite disturbing when I think about it, and the programme itself telling people to cut themselves off and tell all those around them they've been cured and won't be mentioning their illness or symptoms anymore etc. and then supposed research into it and the potential possibility that could have done the same - like you don't exist if you don't/won't/can't say 'the right line' etc.
 
Press release

New UK study reveals widespread ME/CFS recovery but almost entirely outside the health system.​


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Analysis of 75 recovery accounts found a consistent pathway to improvement raising concerns that NHS messaging and standard treatments may be holding patients back.

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Many people diagnosed with ME/CFS are being told they will never recover.  But a new UK study entitled Recovery is Possible, suggests something very different is happening.

Research from Goldsmiths, University of London analysing 75 in-depth recovery interviews found that recovery and major improvement were taking place largely outside standard medical care. The social and cultural themes associated with recovery suggest that improvement is common but invisible to a healthcare system responsible for patient care.

Drawn from hundreds of recovery stories online, the sample — representing more than 600 cumulative years of illness — consists of people who have regained their health with most experiencing the complete resolution of their chronic symptoms.
None of the interviewees reported recovering within a conventional NHS-style treatment pathway.

The study draws on recovery interviews published on a major online platform, combined with structured participant data.  Rather than testing a single intervention, the research identifies recurring patterns across lived experience — how illness develops, how recovery happens, and what role medicine plays in both.

The sample reflecting typical ME/CFS demographics was predominantly female with UK and North American participants diagnosed with ME/CFS (63%) and Long COVID (31%).  

What emerges is not a set of isolated anecdotes, but a consistent and striking picture.

One of the study’s most powerful findings concerns patients’ encounters with medical professionals. Across the dataset 64% describe negative or dismissive clinical interactions, 24% were told they would not recover and 36% were told there was nothing doctors could do.

For many this treatment was a defining moment in their illness. “They said, ‘this is you now — this is forever,’” one participant to the research said. “I thought I’d get treatment. Instead, I was told to learn to live with it,” said another.
Patients describe a long diagnostic journey, with one seeing 30 doctors. For most, several doctors’ appointments only led to being given normal test results, little or no explanation and a prognosis of chronic lifetime illness.  The emotional impact was profound: “I was so defeated from day one… it messed with my mind,” said one participant. “That was when I got worse — after I was told there was no way out.”

These encounters are not just unhelpful, but may be actively harmful, reinforcing fear and hopelessness at a critical stage of illness, the research found. Around 1 in 5 participants reported suicidal thoughts, with some describing attempts.

What stands out is that this “rock bottom” was not driven by symptoms alone — but by what patients were told about their future. “If I’m never going to get better, why would I stay alive?” “It wasn’t just the illness — it was the idea that this was my life forever.”

Despite these experiences, recovery narratives showed remarkably consistent patterns. Across the 75 cases 58 describe themselves as recovered, 17 report significant improvement and 100% believed recovery was possible.

No single treatment explains these outcomes. Instead, recovery appears to follow a multi-factored process:
A shift in belief — and a turning point
Nearly all participants describe a moment where their outlook changed. 95% linked their recovery to a change in mindset while 80% describe a conscious decision to recover. This is not described as “thinking yourself better”, but as a shift that allows people to act differently.
A different understanding of the illness
95% adopt a “mind–body” or nervous system model where they move from seeing the illness as fixed and irreversible to something that physiological but changeable linked to stress, fear, and dysregulation. “I realised my body wasn’t broken — it was stuck,” a research participant said. “That gave me hope, and hope changed what I did.”
Recovery as an “ecology” of practices
Critically no single intervention consistently led to recovery, but instead it   emerged from combinations of practices, often after trial and error.   Participants used a wide range of approaches with diet (61%) supplements (51%) meditation (55%+) featuring high along with therapy (40%). The effects of these approaches look inconsistent when understood in isolation from one another and from mindset.
Despite its prominence in clinical guidance only 48% of participants identified pacing or movement as part of their recovery and fewer still described it as central. While pacing was described as too rigid, many participants describe cultivating an individual approach towards movement that was helpful. This challenges assumptions about current treatment models. In patient accounts, some form of movement was seen as important to many, but the medical model of pacing was viewed as too limited.

Other participants reported that strict pacing reinforced illness identity, limited improvements or kept then “stuck”. “Pacing just reduced my life… it didn’t help me get better.”
The interview with participants reveals consistently what they say helped their recovery with 85% citing nervous system regulation- through breathwork, meditation and emotional work being a major contribution. Reducing fear and uncertainty - often cited by participants as a driver of their symptoms – was also claimed. Participants also said that understanding their illness helped them to improve. Recovery was also closely linked to participants regaining a sense of agency.

Commenting on the implications of the research study, Goldsmiths Dr Sarah Cefai said:

This is first systematic analysis of a large body of recovery accounts showing that recovery does happen at scale, outside of the medical system and that critically medical messaging maybe impeding recovery.

Dr Sarah Cefai, Senior Lecturer Gender and Cultural Studies
The research study cautions against definitive claims that patients will not recover as well as calling for the integration of the evidence of recovery into NHS guidance along with patient support to access credible information and peer support.

“Belief in recovery was the universal among those who got better,” Dr Cefai said. “Withholding that possibility maybe one of the most damaging aspects of current care.
“What we tell patients matters. In conditions where medicine has limited answers, removing hope may worsen outcomes and recognising recovery may be one of the most powerful interventions available.”

Dr Sarah Cefai, Senior Lecturer Gender and Cultural Studies
The research study cautions against definitive claims that patients will not recover as well as calling for the integration of the evidence of recovery into NHS guidance along with patient support to access credible information and peer support.

“Belief in recovery was the universal among those who got better,” Dr Cefai said. “Withholding that possibility maybe one of the most damaging aspects of current care.
“What we tell patients matters. In conditions where medicine has limited answers, removing hope may worsen outcomes and recognising recovery may be one of the most powerful interventions available.”

Feels very unprofessional. I was once told very explicitly by someone expert in assessing and understanding sociological research that even when there is a solution that is blinking obvious, the way the subject works is that it is generally seen as not their place to be spelling out solutions, just describing situations etc. otherwise it somehow breaks the objectivity stance or something that thye hold dear. *hopefully someone else can put this better in their terms than me*

The second para in this quote I've included astounds me because I want to know how this 'Dr' (PhD in sociology?) is able to say 'among those who got better' - did she actually assess that at all?

or did she assess 'those who parroted the line of 'recovery' that the entire training puts into the mouths of those who do it, and are even often told they will never get better if they won't start saying it [ie a literal threat] ?

ie we found 75 people 'who will say something along the lines of the following for various reasons'

it is like building up confidence in people who are maths phobic by picking off stories from a course that operates on a pyramidy model that requires those participating on it to mainly not talk about any real struggles 'as they won't get better if they do' and to tell everyone they are now great at maths, and even drop the line into training that people told them they'd never recover from being bad at it. without checking any of it factually.

....And then having someone from the french literature department doing the research and saying it tells teachers and educaiton departments that they should be buying this course. It's strange?

the phenomenon itslef and the million not ideal reasons why you might get 75 people in such a situation scraped off saying this seems to be obvious to me the part that would be the cultural studies or 'the social' (continual pressure, forces, reasons why) when you are not a medic

I get that unis are struggling atm and this is prime time that they will be wanting to fish around for anything they can put out that gets their name heard anywhere in the battle to scrape extra postgrad applicants into converting or applying for Sept/Oct and of course clearing in 3 weeks time.

So maybe this snuck through normal checks or maybe they weren't there /those who might have wondered what on earth a sociologist was doing recommending what treatment a serious medical condition should have and then designing 'research' to try and claim to 'evidence' their argument

But I'm not sure how it would be good marketing for any of those uni courses either as it would surely provide confusion to those who know or need to know what sociology is supposed to do.
 
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What's ironic is that it perfectly contradicts the entire psychobehavioral assertions. Even ignoring that it's been known for a long time that recovery is common, mostly early, and how Long Covid made that crystal clear, they talk of standard medical pathways, which are dominated by the CBT/GET paradigm, being irrelevant, even though "brain retraining" is essentially the same thing.

The only reason things continue to be a complete mess is that facts are irrelevant. This is about stories and myths. The facts have completely invalidated everything, and it just doesn't matter. It's like playing chess with a pigeon, in the end it'll just knock out all the pieces and poop on the board.

Just googled to look into Dr Cefai and the following reddit thread came up:

second comment seems to say similar about it being disappointing particularly from someone in cultural studies who should know better than most the psychologisation of serious illnesses issue etc.
 
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Looking at the long report itself (188 pages): https://research.gold.ac.uk/id/eprint/40719/

the foreward itself is interesting (note these are just parts of it)

Recovery is a contentious subject. Until I wrote this report, I never understood how controversial my own recovery from CFS—or post-viral fatigue syndrome as it was termed in the early noughties—would be. I recovered incrementally and, as many of this study’s participants did, with the help of a non-medical practitioner. In my case, she was an energy healer. Speaking about my experience always felt speculative, even though it had already happened.

..........By the time I had CFS for the second time, a new context of ‘culture wars’ had taken shape, and things had become differently hostile. Not only did you have to experience the illness, you had to have a position on it.

.........When I was ill the first time round, debates about medical treatment and policy had been taking place in professional and organisational quarters. By the second time, the debate had moved online and was focused on the origins of the illness—of why I was unwell.

Policymakers claim that what’s needed to improve the care of people with ME/CFS is patient voice. Less attention is paid to who is speaking, and how they are being heard. Patient advocacy and support groups act as cultural intermediaries. They claim to be acting on behalf of people with ME/CFS, but are they listening to everyone?

Are clinicians, researchers, policymakers and patient advocacy and support groups listening to those who have recovered? If they were truly listening, wouldn’t they go online, to the emergent, vibrant recovery community, where debate about CFS, long COVID and related conditions occurs, in terms set by those with first-hand experience?

Listening to recovery interviews on Raelan Agle’s recovery channel on YouTube as someone with CFS for the second time, I was struck by the nature of people’s recovery stories. What did it mean that people were bringing in their life stories when they were talking about this illness? What did it mean that recovery involved so much creativity, tenacity and biographical difference?

Then I listened to the recovery interviews as a researcher and they truly upended me. Not only did I hear and feel the depths of people’s devastation as they sat there 5 alone, in a doctor’s office, being told, ‘there is no cure for you.’ I understood, for the first time, why there was no medical discourse on recovery.

For medicine to tell the story of recovery, they would have to rewrite the story of ME. Of CFS. Of long COVID. Of so many health conditions. I learned that in the hands of those who had recovered was this other, bigger story. About the power of medicine to shape our lives. About the pain of being alive today. About the ongoing struggle for knowledge, for mind-body medicine, for legitimacy to be accorded to those who know how to help one another recover from CFS/ME.

.........I hope that in the Recovery Report you will see why. For those who are in the community, for those who are unable to live their lives because they are beset by symptoms, for those decision-makers with the power to change things—for everyone who is trying to change things, who wants to make recovery possible for more people, this report is for you.
 
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Then in the background section:

it begins with a few lines on the size of the market (numbers of ill we'd be familiar with) then in the same para

The UK government’s policy paper Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (ME/CFS): The Final Delivery Plan (Department of Health and Social Care 2025) readily admits the need for a better understanding of the condition but limits its own understanding of research to biomedicine.

.......The policy paper at no point discusses recovery from CFS and while prioritising ‘research’ as one of three ‘themes in which we are seeking to encourage change to improve care and support for people with ME/CFS’, limits understanding of ‘the entire research system’ to research funded by the NIHR and the MRC. This framework overlooks the transformations of medical, health and wellbeing knowledge taking place online,

.......The omission of the CFS recovery arena, including but not limited to digital recovery culture, from the UK government’s account and from academic research to date, represents a failure to consider what the recovery community says about how to get better from CFS and related illnesses.

This report gives the public sector the opportunity to recognise the importance of these accounts to the CFS recovery landscape, as well as the collective knowledge that is emerging through a mediated and ‘mediatised’ infrastructure of support.

then a usual load of tropey blurb claiming 'controversial' and 'entrenched' rather than self-analysing how biased she might be in her methods. This seems to be blatant trap-setting in order that readers are being primed to see 'anyone who disagrees' as just 'stuck in those old ways' whilst mis-representing the situation in a way to cause worse general treatment and entrench stigma.

then later on

According to research, between one third and one half of general practitioners in Europe lack confidence in diagnosing or managing CFS or dispute its existence as a genuine clinical entity (Pheby, Araja, Berkis, et al., 2021). Such figures can only gesture towards the contested status of CFS as an illness and the complex interweaving......

she then goes on to use stats on the NHS and ActionforME and FOIs from ICBs about what % of trusts have even implemented the new Nice guideline.

This really does feel like a political document. and salesmanship

Here is an interesting line:

National patient groups in the UK shore up their belief in an ‘illness biology’ framework through platforming and even adjudicating on the funding of biomedical research.

what /who do we think she is referring to there?


and here's the last bit:

....Put differently, the status quo of nonengagement with accounts of recovery is compounding inequalities in healthcare—a problem whose structural characteristics will become all the more evident as the private sector grows in influence. The Recovery Report shares much needed documentation of the types of information and support that have been instrumental to people’s recovery.

that to me sounds manipulative and directed towards funders and politicians.
 
On page 31 (in 'report in numbers' from page 30). My bolding (and splitting the para):
The analysis also shows that many of the participants who were guided by nonmedical practitioners, whether as mind-body coaches, breath work coaches or people working with trademarked psychotherapeutic or brain retraining techniques, themselves went on to train in the practices that helped them.

Almost two thirds of participants had started working in the recovery arena following their own recovery. This means, at the very least, that the majority of recovery interviews have been given by people with a substantial commitment to the project of recovery beyond reflecting on their own experience.

Most participants had stopped working during their illness, and most did not return to the same line of work once regaining their health. Many people report that this is because they developed a passion for wanting to help others recover.

which tallies with a line in an earlier para on same page:
The level of education of participants is consistent with their vocational choices, with 64% (n = 48) of participants working as a non-medical practitioner.


So basically this isn't a study of 'patients' or 'recovered' but of people who are now making money/working in said industry?


An industry that requires generally a 'spiel' to sell that it works. Claiming instead that it's just 'the missing voice of patients'.

To me that is hiding who the subject really are??

And goodness knows how you describe it regarding the added layer of conflict of interests given it almost forms an industry lobby group at 2/3 of 'subjects' already being those building a career in said industry not patients


Earlier on in her background section there are lines which misrepresent this throughout when clearly trying to speak to policy makers/funders and those who will potentially be encouraged to fund or send patients their way. I'll save that for next section...
 
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So in the supposed 'background' section

page 11:

One of the encouraging findings of this report is that people who have recovered have a wide range of ideas about how others can be supported in their recovery. Their own accounts also provide evidence of the significance of social and cultural themes to sustained improvement. Further, many of the ideas presented here are inexpensive to mobilise when given the right support from clinicians and policymakers.

Should this, if it was not hiding conflicts of interest (financial ones) be more accurately saying

'The findings of this report are that if you ask those who are making money selling things they claim recover people they have a lot of specific suggestions saying that certain things will recover people/support their target market.' ?

Instead the para the above quote is from is straight after the following suggestion:

The report answers these and other questions in a social and cultural analysis of 75 accounts of people who have recovered or experienced significant improvement from CFS symptoms.

- no mention of these people anywhere in this being that those interviewed were as a majority mainly people who now made their living in said industry.

it also says on page 13:

Without claiming a complete understanding of CFS recovery, this report calls for the medical, academic and policymaking communities to consider what people who have experienced recovery already know. The Recovery Report claims the following unequivocally:

An emergent community comprising people seeking to recover or who have recovered, people who have recovered who have become non-medical practitioners who are working to help people recover, and clinicians who may or may not have first-hand experience but who have a specialist interest in chronic health conditions is articulating a collective knowledge of recovery from CFS and related illnesses that is of growing influence.

and later on (just before a section on Raelen Eagle):

The Recovery Report shares much needed documentation of the types of information and support that have been instrumental to people’s recovery.
 
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Almost two thirds of participants had started working in the recovery arena following their own recovery. This means, at the very least, that the majority of recovery interviews have been given by people with a substantial commitment to the project of recovery beyond reflecting on their own experience.
Wow. I find it incredible that they would be presenting the high percentage of the participants that have an economic reason to take part in the study (i.e. promoting their own business) as a good thing, a "commitment to the project of recovery".

The report truly is advertising, it is not remotely science.

Still, thanks to them for saving us the work of answering the question that was posed earlier - "how many of the participants have a vested interest in portraying their current state as a recovery and portraying that recovery as something special and not just the product of time passing?" Answer, most of them.

(and that's before we consider that in some cases, it might be that the spouse or child or some other family member that has recovered and is interviewed here, with their anecdote supporting the person who makes a living from claiming to hold the key to recovery.)
 
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But probably the strangest claim so far, if it weren't for the wording being so dodgy, seems to be one where the author seems to try to claim that her methodology is good 'because social media' ...

and then tries to say that social media in itself has so many filters and algorithms it has somehow purified data

From page 9, my para split (yes it was all one para) and bolding:

At the centre of this new cultural articulation is the mobilising force of the recovery story. Social media are amenable to the recovery story because of their prime position as social adjudicators. Along with algorithms and other aspects of the technological infrastructure, audiences play a vital role in determining the visibility of particular media content.

Each of the interviews analysed in this study has already been subject to these conditions of production; each has been listened to multiple times, commented on, and possibly shared across platforms.

The foundations of media and cultural studies help parse meaningful content from a social media form that, while bearing no formal relation to the institution of medicine, is generative of a 8 corpus of illness recovery data. The focus of the present study is to elucidate the social and cultural themes structuring the interviewees’ narratives of recovery. This focus gives rise to a series of themes centred on mindset and mind-body theories of illness and recovery.

This approach concretely shows that, while opaque, recovery is not impervious to socially meaningful explanation.


whilst not mentioning at all that the interviews are with people who are now part of the industry and are 'game turned poacher' or whatever the term is, but certainly these intro sections don't seem to be hammering the honesty that the people she interviewed were 2/3 already working in the industry

The point here being that this author is representing these as real truthful stories from patients who happen to have recovered, when it could also be perfectly well claimed it is instead mostly 'the stories told by those working in the industry where they claim whatever they sell cures/makes recovery'

And the author tries to claim that social media and its algorithms has somehow innately made the data 'cleaner'

when actually if we are looking at it from those who sell their wares based on a 'spiel' of 'claiming their own recovery story' the algorithm is what dictates whether they get visibility or not and will probably therefore influence said stories because as we all know certain things make something more or less visible - we just need to look at how many in a video have the need to drum their fingers on every item they show to camera, among other things current 'in vogue'.
 
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At the centre of this new cultural articulation is the mobilising force of the recovery story. Social media are amenable to the recovery story because of their prime position as social adjudicators. Along with algorithms and other aspects of the technological infrastructure, audiences play a vital role in determining the visibility of particular media content.

Each of the interviews analysed in this study has already been subject to these conditions of production; each has been listened to multiple times, commented on, and possibly shared across platforms.

The foundations of media and cultural studies help parse meaningful content from a social media form that, while bearing no formal relation to the institution of medicine, is generative of a 8 corpus of illness recovery data. The focus of the present study is to elucidate the social and cultural themes structuring the interviewees’ narratives of recovery. This focus gives rise to a series of themes centred on mindset and mind-body theories of illness and recovery.

This approach concretely shows that, while opaque, recovery is not impervious to socially meaningful explanation.
That is sounding like the creation of fairy tales, where truth is not important, the story is just the vehicle for a 'socially meaningful explanation', something that serves the needs of those telling and retelling the stories.
 
Oh here we go,

On page 18 .. the answer we all thought would be put somewhere actually in the report rather than the footnotes (!), my para split (was all one innocent looking para) and bolding:

The use of the term ‘recovery’ reflects its use by the community.

As the purpose of this report is to reflect the subjective, social and cultural reality of participants’ accounts, medical criteria have not been applied to assess them.

The experience of recovery and participants’ understanding of the meaning of the term is not uniform.

THIS and the fact that the subjects are working in the industry, rather than 'recovered people' and certainly not some externally valid representation of any of those, but ones sourced it seems from places selling stuff/cures ie not stumbling upon people somehow noting they recovered from not doing any of these commercial things..

Are probably the most important parts that should be at the top of any 'report'?? and heading up any methods sections and results and titles?
 
the methods section starts on page 19 - after the results

Here is a gem of a para I've split for readability and my bolding:

The Recovery is Possible study was approved by Goldsmiths’ Research Ethics SubCommittee (reference 1833) on 4 June 2024.

To recruit participants, all interviewees on the chosen YouTube channel were contacted about the research study by Raelan and her channel producer.

Those who replied stating that they would like their interview to be included in the study were subsequently contacted by the researcher with the formal, ethically approved documents.

This process recruited 79 participants and excluded 4 from the final dataset because their interview did not substantively discuss recovery from a first-person perspective. Thus, 75 interviews were included in the final dataset.
 
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The following that is a footnote on page 20 (Method section) is a bit intriguing:

Again, a full explanation has been held back for academic publication. To illustrate in brief: philosopher Gilles Deleuze’s work on Michel Foucault (1988) reconceptualises his historical contribution as a methodology that diagrams power. The Recovery is Possible study will develop this idea through positioning CFS and related conditions as themselves diagramming power. In relation to the analysis of interview data discussed here, each singular account was mapped as a set of terms, events and crystallisations of subjectivity that are happening at the intersection of experience with power.

it was a footnote 2 against the following
By creating a thumbnail ‘diagram’2 of each account, this method pulled out each interview’s affective arc, accounting for how each narrative is an interaction in a disclosed feeling-world, as well as a mobilising and expressive force.
 
As is the following footnote (3) on page 63 of pdf (62 page number on report):

The median recovery rate of 5% is cited to a review of 28 research articles, 14 of which matched the operational criteria for CFS (1980-2003), published in Occupational Medicine by R. Cairns and M. Hotopf (2005). According to the Dimensions database, this study benefits from field citation ratio of 66, 359 citations, 7% of which have been made in the last 2 years. Reference to the study occurs in literature that is wide-ranging. The top four cited papers that reference this study examining clinical practice, the natural history of ME/CFS pathophysiology, the role of microRNAs and narrative analysis of the ‘sick role’. The DecodeME genome-wide associations study provides an illustration of this oft cited research, linking the lack of diagnostic testing to interminable illness: ‘There is no positive diagnostic test for ME/CFS, no known cause, and white it can relapse and remit, full recovery is rare, at about 5%’ (Genetics Delivery Team, Boutin, Bretherick, Dibble, Ewaoluwagbemiga et al., preprint). A full review of the citation of this 5% recovery rate has been reserved for publication by journal article.

that was put against the following:
The above statement highlights the reliance on a 5% recovery rate and the association of CFS with non-recovery.3 The cultural traction of this narrative reflects its institutional support.
 
page 188, the very end of the pdf has the following section after the references and then the references cited by 'participants'

3. Resources guides at the time of publication Recovery stories websites
Fatigue Science Talks https://www.youtube.com/@FatigueScienceTalks

Living Proof https://www.livingproof.org.uk/recoverywall

Positively COVID https://www.positivelycovid.org/

The Recovery Channel https://recovery-channel.org/

The Recovery Hub https://www.the-recovery-hub.org/recovery-stories

Recovery Norge (Recovery Norway) https://www.recoverynorway.org/stories/

Stress Illness Recovery Practitioners Association (SIRPA) https://www.sirpa.org/im-in-pain/helpful-information/

Recovery YouTube Raelan Agle https://www.youtube.com/@RaelanAgle

CFS Health https://www.youtube.com/@CFSHealth CFS Unravelled https://www.youtube.com/@CFSUnravelled1

CFS Recovery https://www.youtube.com/@cfsrecovery

Nervous system and recovery apps

Calm https://www.calm.com/

Curable https://www.curablehealth.com/

Freeme https://freemehealth.com/

Headspace https://www.headspace.com/

InsightTimer https://insighttimer.com/

Nervana https://www.trynervana.com/

I've bolded one: The Recovery Channel https://recovery-channel.org/

only because the name rings a bell*

it rings a bell because Rachel and Garner were pushing it on an article we discussed recently here.

And if I remember rightly it was suggesting very recently it was 'soon to be online' or something, but not 'up and running' a week or two ago.

And of course this research was done 2025? well the pilot was in summer 2024 and the analysis of all the data already collected was in autumn 2025 ...

OK here is the s4 thread: https://s4me.info/threads/the-recovery-channel-rachel-whitfield-and-paul-garner.51005/#post-703466

And here is the Companies House listing for 'the Recovery Channel': https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/16946031

Which says it was incorporated in January 2026


So... WHO is the participant who mentioned it if this is a list that came from the participants/majority of whom work in the industry??

and where was that 'resource' at / was it even a website that existed at that point?



*(and absolutely sticks in my head now as hearing it makes me hear:
 
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OK after all of that trawling just to find if info on it being funded by 'someone external' was hidden somewhere in the report, the following is at the start on page 2 of pdf (1 on the page no of doc itself)

If this is true then certain external individuals did very well I suggest out of a lot of free/funded by others resources whilst having almost editorial control in some aspects of who got to be selected to speak, and how they were [mis]represented in said report / manifesto

Please do scroll down to the last line with suggested hashtag, but I don't know whether it deserves a trigger warning because of how offensive it is.

No external funding was received in relation to this study.

Declaration
Claude.ai was used to support line editing during the final stages of writing.

Acknowledgements

This report would not have been possible without the support of the participants who willingly shared their Raelan Agle recovery interview to the study. Thank you.

With deepest gratitude to Raelan Agle and Irena Krčelić for their unwavering support.

With heartfelt thanks to Rachel McDowell for her thorough and skilful copy editing (https://writermcdowell.pressfolios.com/).

Thanks also to the community and specialist advisors for their input into the pilot. With thanks to the School of Media, Communications and Cultural Studies, as well as Communications and Research Support teams at Goldsmiths, University of London.

Views and any remaining errors are the author’s own.

This report is dedicated to the CFS recovery community.

Suggested social media hashtag: #RIPCFS

Yes, that is correct! I hope on this occassion I'm allowed to repeat as its own quote that 'suggested hashtag' with understanding I find it so ignorant:

Suggested social media hashtag: #RIPCFS


EDIT: I have just had that really creepy feeling of the types we are dealing with here when I realise that there is a likelihood that hashtag is deliberately ‘provocative/inappropriate’ - given the priming to any reader throughout the intro sections of 'controversial' and 'increasingly embattled' type language, so that any objections I guess they hope will be seen as 'just a sign of what these patients are like/this field is so argumentative'

I didn't think anyone could stoop that low in trying to draw the worst PR possible in order to darvo it onto the victims of it but..

I don't even know whether such hashtags - given you can't own a hashtag - are ones that might already be being used for obituaries, for example

So I think rather than giving them what they want - it's best dealt with in future with a cut and paste and a comment of it 'saying it all about the persons who would choose to write such a strapline to intend to rally behind' [and the at best 'wilful ignorance' they choose to have to any harm caused, instead of seeking to implement a yellow card system]
 
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That is sounding like the creation of fairy tales, where truth is not important, the story is just the vehicle for a 'socially meaningful explanation', something that serves the needs of those telling and retelling the stories.
Absolutely it is studying the marketing spiel of a very homogenous, carefully selected cohort and suggesting it somehow would provide policymakers with insight into truth of real patients who recover as if 'what a coincidence, they all where they said the same thing seemed to say xyz'

and certainly seems to be seeking to insinuate to those who will impact the fortune of real patients who don't have vested interests for it be transplanted as an epistemological narrative for those who aren't working in the industry, are diagnosed as ill with ME/CFS, and aren't 'destined to recover' or otherwise speaking 'won't benefit from this stuff because they are the done to/consumer not the seller - which is who is really being interviewed'
 
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