The biology of coronavirus COVID-19 - including research and treatments

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    Coronavirus: Plasma therapy has begun in 5 US patients. Will it work?

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...apy-5-us-patients-covid-19-donors/5090946002/
     
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    People are talking about recombining ACE2 with the FC region (antibody attachment site) to block the virus spikes and mark it for disposal.

    https://f1000research.com/articles/9-72
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.01.929976v2.full.pdf
    Not sure what this is but it looks like its on sale for lab testing already!
    https://www.sinobiological.com/recombinant-proteins/human-ace2-10108-h02h

    Which looks interesting but having wrestled with trying to understand Antibody Dependant Enhancement of infection, I cant help wondering if it would carry any risks.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibody-dependent_enhancement
     
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    Inhibition of SARS-CoV-2 infections in engineered human tissues using clinical-grade soluble human ACE2
    https://www.cell.com/pb-assets/products/coronavirus/CELL_CELL-D-20-00739.pdf
     
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    "BCG (TB) vaccine might protect against Covid19"

    I didn't realise they'd stopped this in the UK.

    But tuberculosis is bacterial, or doesn't that make any difference?
    @Jonathan Edwards

    eta:
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-help-fight-the-new-coronavirus-idUSKBN21K372
     
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    The tubercle bacterium has a particularly potent innate immune stimulant in it that became the central ingredient what was called Freund's adjuvant. It boosts reactivity to any vaccine given. Whether it would boost immunity to a clever virus or not is speculative but it might. The down side of the immune stimulant effect of TB is that it is probably part of the way the bacterium tricks the host into keeping it alive - by getting eaten by macrophages in which it then lives.

    BCG is a benign variant of TB that can live locally in the host for a period of days and produce a local infection that is then controlled. I think the adjuvant effect would be fairly slow to take hold - over many days, which would be of little benefit in someone already very ill but might be relevant to people in the early mild phase seen in some Covid19 cases. BCG is instilled into the bladder to stimulate a local immune response that can help destroy bladder cancers.
     
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    Vaccination in the past I think would be irrelevant. The helpful action of BCG would be only at the time of giving.
     
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    I hesitate to ask but I wonder if any of the 2215 members of the forum think they have had Covid19? nd what was it like? The only people I know so far who have had it are people who visit hospitals regularly.

    This post has been copied and responses moved to this thread in the members only area.
     
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    It happened that I just came across this interesting review (already)

    The neuroinvasive potential of SARS-cov-2 may play a role in the respiratory failure ...

    abstract

    Maybe it sheds even some light on ME/CFS?
     
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    There are many other uncontrolled factors, I wouldn't get too excited about this. It may even be a reporting bias, namely the non-BCG countries are reporting infection rates that are more accurate. There is a clear geographical bias between countries with current BCG vaccination policies and not: http://www.bcgatlas.org/ (on the map)

    There is no reactivity between antibodies towards BCG and coronavirus.
     
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    News article in the San Jose Mercury news on one of the first community prevalence studies in the US run by Stanford University with antibody sampling of 2500 volunteers.

    Coronavirus: New Stanford research reveals if you’ve been exposed
    https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/04...nford-research-reveals-if-youve-been-exposed/
    This snippet in the news article about whether antibodies provide protection was concerning
     
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    omg, a Spanish biologist answering questions on COVID 19:
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    Got something from ProMED mail that you all might find interesting.

    Microneedle array delivered recombinant coronavirus vaccines
    Date: Thu 2 Apr 2020

    (Apologies for the length, but when about 20 years ago I asked for permission to re-post some of their mails they wanted the whole mail sending. Probably a good idea anyway, as means anyone looking at it can find sources and previous sources.)

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    [5] Microneedle array delivered recombinant coronavirus vaccines
    Date: Thu 2 Apr 2020
    Source: The Lancet [edited]
    <https://www.thelancet.com/journals/ebiom/article/PIIS2352-3964(20)30118-3/fulltext>


    ref: Kim E, Erdos G, Huang S, et al. Microneedle array-delivered
    recombinant coronavirus vaccines: immunogenicity and rapid
    translational development. EBioMedicine. 2 Apr 2020. doi:
    <https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ebiom.2020.102743>.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Abstract
    ---------
    Background
    Coronaviruses pose a serious threat to global health as evidenced by
    severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS), Middle East respiratory
    syndrome (MERS), and COVID-19. SARS coronavirus (SARS-CoV), MERS
    coronavirus (MERS-CoV), and the novel coronavirus, previously dubbed
    2019-nCoV, and now officially named SARS-CoV-2, are the causative
    agents of the SARS, MERS, and COVID-19 disease outbreaks,
    respectively. Safe vaccines that rapidly induce potent and
    long-lasting virus-specific immune responses against these infectious
    agents are urgently needed. The coronavirus spike (S) protein, a
    characteristic structural component of the viral envelope, is
    considered a key target for vaccines for the prevention of coronavirus
    infection.

    Methods
    We 1st generated codon-optimized MERS-S1 subunit vaccines fused with a
    foldon trimerization domain to mimic the native viral structure. In
    variant constructs, we engineered immune stimulants (RS09 or
    flagellin, as TLR4 or TLR5 agonists, respectively) into this trimeric
    design. We comprehensively tested the pre-clinical immunogenicity of
    MERS-CoV vaccines in mice when delivered subcutaneously by traditional
    needle injection, or intracutaneously by dissolving microneedle arrays
    (MNAs) by evaluating virus-specific IgG antibodies in the serum of
    vaccinated mice by ELISA and using virus neutralization assays. Driven
    by the urgent need for COVID-19 vaccines, we utilized this strategy to
    rapidly develop MNA SARS-CoV-2 subunit vaccines and tested their
    pre-clinical immunogenicity in vivo by exploiting our substantial
    experience with MNA MERS-CoV vaccines.

    Findings
    Here we describe the development of MNA-delivered MERS-CoV vaccines
    and their pre-clinical immunogenicity. Specifically, MNA-delivered
    MERS-S1 subunit vaccines elicited strong and long-lasting
    antigen-specific antibody responses. Building on our ongoing efforts
    to develop MERS-CoV vaccines, promising immunogenicity of
    MNA-delivered MERS-CoV vaccines, and our experience with MNA
    fabrication and delivery, including clinical trials, we rapidly
    designed and produced clinically translatable MNA SARS-CoV-2 subunit
    vaccines within 4 weeks of the identification of the SARS-CoV-2 S1
    sequence. Most importantly, these MNA-delivered SARS-CoV-2 S1 subunit
    vaccines elicited potent antigen-specific antibody responses that were
    evident beginning 2 weeks after immunization.

    Interpretation
    MNA delivery of coronaviruses-S1 subunit vaccines is a promising
    immunization strategy against coronavirus infection. Progressive
    scientific and technological efforts enable quicker responses to
    emerging pandemics. Our ongoing efforts to develop MNA-MERS-S1 subunit
    vaccines enabled us to rapidly design and produce MNA SARS-CoV-2
    subunit vaccines capable of inducing potent virus-specific antibody
    responses. Collectively, our results support the clinical development
    of MNA-delivered recombinant protein subunit vaccines against SARS,
    MERS, COVID-19, and other emerging infectious diseases.

    --
    communicated by:
    ProMED-mail
    <promed@promedmail.org>

    [Microneedle arrays (MN) are minimally invasive devices that
    painlessly bypass the skin's stratum corneum, which is the principal
    barrier to topically applied drugs. MN (50-900 micrometre in height,
    up to 2000 MN per square centimetre) have been extensively
    investigated in recent years as a means to enhance transdermal drug
    and vaccine delivery.
    (<https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3627464/>)

    As mentioned in the report above, the researchers used a new approach
    to deliver the drug, called a microneedle array, to increase potency.
    This array is a fingertip-sized patch of 400 tiny needles that
    delivers the SARS-CoV-2 S protein pieces into the skin, where the
    immune reaction is strongest. The patch is applied similarly to a
    plaster, and then the needles, made entirely of sugar and the protein
    pieces, dissolve into the skin. Furthermore, according to the vaccine
    developers, the system is highly scalable. The protein pieces are
    manufactured by a "cell factory" -- multiple layers of cultured cells
    engineered to express the SARS-CoV-2 S protein -- that can be stacked
    further to multiply yield. Purifying the protein can be conducted at
    industrial scale. Mass-producing the microneedle array involves
    spinning down the protein-sugar mixture into a mould using a
    centrifuge. Once manufactured, the vaccine can sit at room temperature
    until it is needed, eliminating the need for refrigeration during
    transport or storage.
    (<https://www.europeanpharmaceuticalr...eveloped-to-deliver-covid-19-vaccine-to-mice/>)

    This sounds extremely promising. The use of MN-mediated vaccine
    delivery for SARS-CoV-2 and other emerging pathogens will hold immense
    potential for expanding access to vaccines, particularly to access
    populations in developing countries. - Mod.UBA]

    [See Also:
    COVID-19 update (79): research update
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200404.7182653
    COVID-19 update (78): countries with high local transmission
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200404.7182833
    COVID-19 update (77): global, polio vacc on hold, new countries, WHO
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200404.7182744
    COVID-19 update (76): China (HU) animal, cat, owned, stray,
    seropositive http://promedmail.org/post/20200403.7179946
    COVID-19 update (75): China (Hong Kong) cat, OIE
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200403.7179945
    COVID-19 update (74): countries with high local transmission
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200403.7178356
    COVID-19 update (73): global, cruise ships, new countries, WHO
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200403.7178355
    COVID-19 update (72): countries with high local transmission
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200402.7174839
    COVID-19 update (71): global, Taiwan, new countries, WHO
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200402.7174769
    COVID-19 update (70): China (Hong Kong) cat, pets & stock
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200402.7173286
    COVID-19 update (60): global, cruise ships, lessons learned, WHO
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200329.7156949
    COVID-19 update (50): China (Hong Kong) dog, 2nd case PCR positive,
    OIE http://promedmail.org/post/20200323.7129951
    COVID-19 update (40): global, Europe epicenter, lockdown, phone
    tracking, WHO http://promedmail.org/post/20200315.7092618
    COVID-19 update (30): China (Hong Kong) dog, susp, serology pending
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200306.7057595
    COVID-19 update (20): China, global, Italy, Iran, Nigeria, imported
    cases, WHO http://promedmail.org/post/20200228.7032761
    COVID-19 update (10): China, global, Iran, WHO
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200219.7005749
    COVID-19 update (01): China, global, EVZD, reporting criteria, WHO
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200213.6984084
    Novel coronavirus (42): China, global, COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, WHO
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200211.6979942
    Novel coronavirus (41): China, global, clinical pics, asymptomatic
    trans., WHO http://promedmail.org/post/20200210.6976117
    Novel coronavirus (40): animal reservoir, pangolin poss intermediate
    host, RFI http://promedmail.org/post/20200210.6972104
    Novel coronavirus (30): updates, China, Viet Nam, research
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200202.6945658
    Novel coronavirus (20): China, wildlife trade ban
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200127.6922060
    Novel coronavirus (10): China (HU, GD, BJ)
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200119.6898567
    Novel coronavirus (01): China (HU) WHO, phylogenetic tree
    http://promedmail.org/post/20200112.6885385
    Undiagnosed pneumonia - China (HU) (10): genome available, Hong Kong
    surveill. http://promedmail.org/post/20200111.6883998
    Undiagnosed pneumonia - China (01): (HU) wildlife sales, market
    closed, RFI http://promedmail.org/post/20200102.6866757
    2019
    ---
    Undiagnosed pneumonia - China (HU): RFI
    http://promedmail.org/post/20191230.6864153]
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