The Pathobiology of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis/Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: The Case for Neuroglial Failure, 2022, Renz-Polster et al

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  1. Andy

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    They kept finding interesting things in ME studies but there is never any money to do larger trials.
     
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    The problem in a nutshell. Many interesting initial findings that were never followed up.
    Think what could potentially be found with current tech if we could secure funding and decent research protocols

    ETA - potentially
     
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    Well actually I rather think Dr Costa has tried to follow it up and presumably didn't find anything much.
     
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    It would be good to know.
    The negatives are as useful as positives .
    Bansal was looking into glucocorticoid receptor resistance , which sounded promising but .... Silence
     
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    So many unanswered questions, so frustrating considering the advances in our knowledge of other neurological disorders. I often wonder how often they are using the donated brains from pwME/CFS via the USA NIH Brain Bank (and is there a specific brain donation for ME/CFS in UK? UK Biobank? and if they need to get more (despite this sounding unappealing or culturally insensitive to many).
     
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    What's new is old and what's old is new. That's the history of M.E as it stands.
     
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    Fascinating read. This paper stuck in my head for a long time, until I discovered Jared Younger's research. The more I ponder this, the more low-grade neuroinflammation seems like the most sensible hypothesis given the data currently available. It fits with many aspects of ME that others can't explain:
    • The delay of PEM
    • Both mental and physical activity triggering PEM
    • Possibility of worsening with overexertion--maybe the cells "learn" to be more hypersensitive
    • Cognitive and autonomic issues
    I'm not sure of any other hypothesis that tries to explain PEM rather than handwaving it away. That's what makes neuroinflammation special.
     
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    Merged thread

    Paper supporting hypothesis of ME being neuroglial


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9124899/

    I like the paper because it reflects my beliefs about ME: that glial dysfunction is part of the core dysfunction. It seems to fit better than theories about mitochondria, blood vessels, etc, especially since those other mechanisms depend on proper functioning of the brain, which depends on proper functioning of glial cells.
     
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    I don't know why the link failed (I've edited it now). Computer glitch?
     
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    Cerebral hypoperfusion causes vascular dementia. Do we know if VaD and ME/CFS are frequently present together? I haven't encountered it, but the clinical side of things is not where I spend most of my time.
     
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