Covid-19 vaccines and vaccinations

Discussion in 'Epidemics (including Covid-19, not Long Covid)' started by hinterland, Dec 3, 2020.

  1. ahimsa

    ahimsa Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Here's a link to the public comment section of the FDA website with this regulaion. People in the USA can leave a comment here.

    https://www.regulations.gov/commenton/FDA-2025-N-1146-0001

    EDIT: I found this page with a template to help you create a comment:

    https://peoplescdc.substack.com/p/vaccine-access-is-under-attack-act

    Even if it's only 1-2 lines I think leaving a comment will help. You can make your comment anonymous, don't have to enter name/email.

    Pushing back on other issues has ended up changing things. Don't think it's impossible to change things!
     
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    ahimsa Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I'm hoping that The Sick Times will report on this issue (restricting COVID vaccines) soon.
     
  3. Sean

    Sean Moderator Staff Member

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    Meanwhile, you can be damn sure the rich and powerful and their loved ones will go right on getting access to vaccines and the finest medical care science can provide.
     
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    ahimsa Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Moved from USA news

    NPR (National Public Radio) now has a story on this:

    A stricter FDA policy for COVID vaccines could limit future access
     
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    shak8 Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The FDA officials responsible for the pronouncement wrote in the New England Journal of Medicine (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsb2506929) that adults with the CDC risk factors of a poorer outcome would qualify for the next covid vaccine.

    This CDC list (link in above article) includes depression and other mental illnesses, and obesity (BMI over 30--which probably includes 40 percent of US adults, smoking or former smoking, among a list of other factors.

    Also, physical inactivity is considered a risk factor on the list. So....
     
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    Mij Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    TBH, I'm not sure this is much different from the current UK approach, except that I think the lower age limit is 75 here? My caree's GP, having read the stuff I sent her about ME, originally put her down as clinically vulnerable - but obviously she's not as high risk as someone who's immunosuppressed due to undergoing chemotherapy, say. She's not received an invitation for a Covid jab this time around, and I, her sole carer, haven't been offered one either. Children don't get the jab either as a rule, but I think that's because the benefit-to-risk ratio isn't as great. I believe Covid jabs probably are available privately if you want to pay for them, but I don't know to what extent you might be discouraged from having one if you don't meet the criteria.
     
  8. Peter Trewhitt

    Peter Trewhitt Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I am approaching seventy so don’t qualify on the basis of age for the current booster programme here in the UK. Although my GP had previously agreed to move me up one priority category, I don’t think that was enough to make me currently eligible.

    Every now and again I make a half hearted attempt to find out about getting a further booster privately, but at present that seems to cost around £100 and be only available beyond my normal travelling range. My socialising is relatively restricted visiting a restaurant maybe one every six months, a shop maybe once a month and probably most risky a care home for the elderly once every two months. I don’t have many visitors other than my carers, and probably foolishly had slipped into not masking any more.

    I have not so far had Covid and have had all the vaccines I was eligible for previously. I have no more home testing kits and no longer ask visitors to test in advance.

    However I find myself without sufficient information to balance the ongoing risks of getting Covid against the energy costs and financial costs (including hiring a driver) of getting a booster privately.

    (Added. I included full information to set out the equation in my own mind and this is not a request for anyone to advise for or against me personally getting a booster.)
     
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    I have been getting both Covid and standard flu vaccines here (Australia; Covid since they first became available, and flu since my late 50s), and have not encountered any problems getting them and for free.
     
  10. rvallee

    rvallee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    The FDA is putting unnecessary burdens on the approval process, demanding an entire new phase of RCTs as if it's a completely untested product. This is something RFK Jr is trying to implement across the board. For all vaccines. While also funding research to 'show' that vaccines cause autism. Well, alongside 'toxins' and lifestyle choices, which at this point share the same ideological roots.

    The leadership of US medical science is literally the main gang of Koch bros who led the Great Barrington Declaration (which is a great propaganda coup in that Great Barrington is just some random town's name they chose because it made it sound important). Aside from RFK Jr, who is a total quack and fraud, they occupy the top posts at the FDA, NIH and CDC. All major proponents of herd immunity and immunity debt, all extremely hostile to Long Covid, which some of them have openly mocked for years.

    Basically, US medical science is being shifted to the same overall ideology that is behind the psychobehavioral model that ruined everything for chronic illness: anti-science, dogmatic, greedy, and all about power for the sake of power. Basically, this is the shining moment for the biopsychosocial model of illness. They will get everything they want, and they will hate everything about it.
     
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    Don't know if anyone watched the interview with Kaitlin Collins and JFK Jr on CNN recently when she asked him about his pledge to find the cause of autism by September, and how he he extended the timeline to March of 2026. He went on about 'replicating studies' et and I wondered why he isn't talking about skin cancer awareness and prevention considering how tanned he is.
     
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    TWIV 1220:

    Dr. Daniel Griffin (infectious disease) and Prof Vincent Rancaniello (virology, Columbia Univ) discuss the current covid vaccine controversy here at 1-36 minutes

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejOSXI6oRtI


     
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    Funny you should say that, the government funding bill they are trying to push forward in Congress repeals a tax on tanning beds.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyp...ain-big-beautiful-bill-burns-the-tanning-tax/

    Although it's a bit of a funny question to ask about a pledge to find the cause of autism by some date, when he's already decided what it is, the timeline is just to get the "Imagine a world"-based medicine machine go brrr.
     
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