Paul Garner on Long Covid and ME/CFS - BMJ articles and other media.

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  1. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I cannot claim to know any detail, but I wonder if women would have the vote in the UK even now if they had always been ever so polite?

    Edit: Just spotted your previous post @Hutan. But leaving this post here so it can be sorted appropriately, but hopefully saved somewhere.
     
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  5. Suffolkres

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    Just tweeted Caroline who may be off line with covid.

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    Caroline, FYI you have beenPGtipped!@PaulGarnerWood An experienced specialist in CFS/ME speak Faulty ideology distorted NICE's procedures Graded exercise therapy helps "by gradually removing the fear of engaging in usual everyday#MECFS #LongCovid -8 citations fu!
     
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    Actually, faulty ideology did try to distort NICE's procedures by means of a text message or email to Gill Leng, but it didn't work out.

    Caroline and I (also with Covid again) have raised our eyebrows in the HealthSense chat room.
     
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    It's alright, I often do and the moderators are very good at erasing things.
     
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    Off-topic, but have to respond: "No! :("
     
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    I was well enough to go to Sainsbury's today so I expect to survive.
    (For those not in the UK the cryptic reference to Sainsbury's is an increasingly downmarket supermarket store that when I was a lad had sawdust on the floor and separate counters for eggs and bacon when we still had ration books after the war.);)
     
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    It's certainly true of the 2007 guidelines. That was an ideologically-driven mess. Very corrupt and a good thing it got somewhat corrected.

    The increased activity on social media by long haulers is really not giving him a good day. What a tool. I assume this will only increase his victimhood martyrdom. Amazing textbook example of ideological bubbles creating biased mutual admiration societies.

    A true representative of the level of scientific skills we have come to love and admire from Cochrane. Garner is a true Cochranite. At some point I expect him to be given an award or something. Such courage, bullying sick people like that. Not everyone can do that, as in most people would be too disgusted with themselves to do do it, but Paul is really nailing it.
     
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  12. It's M.E. Linda

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    I cannot bear to read whatever he writes :banghead:

    I just remember all the advice and support he was given by PwME on twitter when he first caught Covid

    As a person who has had both a (7 month housebound) post viral experience, ‘recovered’ to 90-95%, and, 12 years later, sepsis onset M.E., I do hope he continues to pace because otherwise a future infection may turn round and ‘bite him on the bum’
    (Hope that is ok to say, Mods! This was, after all, my own n=1 experience!)
     
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    Which of course is what PG's experience is. To me it is akin to him walking across a minefield and luckily getting to the other side, and then urging everyone else to do the same because it worked out OK for him.
     
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    He's unable to see outside of himself, and dismisses anyone who doesn't share his experience.
     
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    Hmm ... there's an apt expression for that. Something to do with a person's head being being inserted into one of their own orifices where the sun never shines I think.
     
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    He has an imaginary audience.

    Egocentric Bias is defined as: the tendency for an individual to rely too heavily on one’s own perspective and/or have a higher opinion of one’s self than reality merits.

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    He is 'wiggling' having been 'Waddelled'...

    'The results of ‘Waddell’s tests’ in a medical report are always of interest to defendant personal injury lawyers. They hope that the tests will show the claimant to be a malingerer who is exaggerating their claim in the hope of a larger financial settlement.
    However, the outcome of these tests is often misunderstood and the presence of abnormal illness behaviour or non-organic pain does not necessarily mean that the claimant is exaggerating....'


    PG- the claimant is exaggerating-? guilty as charged ...?

    Well, who'd have though this possible?
     
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    As a hypothetical question. Would someone brainwashed by LP who is also a senior physician be told as part of their 'cure' of stopping 'doing long covid' be told that they need to take every opportunity to reinforce their 'recovery' by speaking up publicly in support of mind over body 'cures'?
     
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    what are 'waddells tests'?
    Sorry if i missed something but I'm confused, Where's that quote from @Suffolkres ?
     

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