UK 21 June 2018 | 3-hour ME debate in Westminster Hall, secured by Carol Monaghan

To be honest, i'm not even offended by that joke.

 

I can think of a few who would be much, much higher on the list of people who should apologise, who have made more than one 'joke'/derisive remark at our expense.

 

I think the minister was tbh the weakest player in the whole debate, though am v grateful for whatever positive changes he can bring to the process, of course. Carol was stupendously good as were all the other MPs.

 

I thought the Gervais bit was pretty shitty, and reflective of a lot of prejudices that were still being promoted by those within the UK Establishment, but there you go. I think less of Gervais for it, but he's far from our main problem.

 

It sounds like Steve Brine was not up to speed with the facts but had an education in the feeling of suffering. All well but for a Debate facts are kind of the go to item to put forth a sound and unassailable argument. Talking feelings can have a use but belongs elsewhere.

 

One of the more disappointing things for me was Brine Shrimp saying everything is going swimmingly because the MRC is talking to the CMRC, which is actually the MRC, which in this case is the CMRC, which is actually Stephen Holgate. What could be better? Something does not quite add up when no significant funding has resulted.

 

Gervais has always been a one trick pony. He has always chosen targets that he pretends are difficult but which, in reality, are easy; that's his 'shtick'. Same with Hopkins etc. He has plenty of critics that have pointed this out (despite praise for The Office). Completely understandable that the Daily Star picks up on the Gervais aspect as this is a celebrity obsessed culture and the Star, well, has never possessed the most serious of editorial lines.

He's never going to apologise. He doesn't have quite the street cred that he had so let him (as it were) dig his own grave.

A little bit of a sideshow. The science is, finally, winning.

 

I already linked to that here, thanks: https://www.s4me.info/threads/media-articles-on-westminster-debate-june-2018.4683/#post-84500

With all web pages you should just be able to select the address, then 'copy' it, and 'paste' it onto another webpage. The specifics of how you do that depend on the device. With a mouse you right click the address with your mouse, on a smart phone you normally just need to hold your finger down on the address for a bit of time for a menu to pop up. The forum software here will then convert any lengthy web address to a shorter link for people to click on.

 

Ricky Gervais retweeted this post by @Robert 1973,
https://twitter.com/user/status/1010272512691892224

It was pointed out by someone that Gervais did comment a while ago,
https://twitter.com/user/status/1010479224342437888
Keith Geraghty replied at the time,
https://twitter.com/user/status/950485882976468993

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td0l_-zBzR0

 

Personally, and this is just me musing, rather than an apology from a rather bland and unfunny "comedian" I'd rather have at least some of the following;

PIP - which I was robbed of by an assessor who was both woefully untrained and dishonest;
SDP which I was robbed of as a consequence of being robbed of PIP
My local council to have the money to be able to offer me care, and the trained people who know enough about my conditions to deliver it.
My local council or housing associations to have enough money to have the property stocks so that I can have a ground floor property, a 3rd floor flat with no lift isn't exactly ideal.

Now can RG provide any of these, or influence people to do so, or is that more the preview of, say, a government minister.

ETA - you may have noticed that no treatment or cure was mentioned, I no longer have any faith in doctors, unsurprisingly, or research, I don't have any faith in MPs either but doctors haven't publicly said that it's all in hand, that the ill and disabled are being looked after, that care is provided to those who need it etc. MPs have, government ministers have, this week, so......

 

I don't care about Ricky Gervaise or his joke; I've personally been subjected to worse and he's not important. It was a distraction tactic by the Minister.

 

Yes, I agree, but by retweeting Robert's tweet, Gervais has bounced it straight back to Steven Brine, who is tagged in the message, and effectively endorsed the suggestion made by Robert that Brine should ask the Dept of Health and Social Care to apologise.

No harm in having support from high profile people, even if just on social media.