United Kingdom: News from BACME - British Association of Clinicians in ME/CFS

I haven’t watched

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_Ee7HGd1Ng

 

Well done @Trish

A bit bizarre that they consider two people on Forward ME adequate to tell all the patients about what went on - a bit five loaves and two small fishes it seems.

This is supposed to be the era of 'collaboaration' much as I am sceptical about the term.

But the point has been made.

 

Maybe we should have joined Forward ME!

Only joking I know we don't have the capacity.

I do wonder who is going....

 

I can see why they wouldn't want people with military grade twaddle-spotting apparatus, though, who are also likely to ask highly inconvenient questions.

 

precisely!

 

That will be the catastrophising hysterics wielding SAS grade Swarovski 10x50s with image stabilisation?

 

Indeed. Hysterics meets Nato. In 2002 Wessely did actually manage to create a NATO sponsored meeting where he'd invited Elaine Showalter to speak, to discuss 'the social and psychological implications of the new terrorism'.


Elaine Showalter in 'Hystories Revisited' (taking a break from Literary Criticism and bashing ME and GWS patients).
Edit correction. Showalter does not mention ME once in this reflection on her book Hystories, amazing, as it was framing ME as mass hysteria that got her all the publicity in 1997. She does however bash GWS patients and predictably plays the victim, Again.


https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv18dvt2d.5?seq=6

'On March 25, 2002, I participated in a three-
day conference on bioterrorism and public policy in Brussels, the first
ever Advanced Research Workshop co-sponsored by NATO and Russia.
The workshop had been organized by Professor Simon Wessely (Kings
College School of Medicine, London) and Professor Valery Krasnov
(Director, Moscow Research Institute of Psychiatry)'



'Social and Psychological Consequences of Chemical, Biological and Radiological Terrorism
NATO-Russia Advanced Research Workshop'
https://projects.iq.harvard.edu/files/lernerlab/files/nato.pdf


Not sure this post belongs on this thread but I thought I'd post it while I remembered the bizarre event when Showalter addressed NATO.

 

I mean usually we just get accused of hedging too much in our reports and recommending clinical correlation all the time.

 

I think this is unfair. You seem to be forgetting that an individual once heckled Prof Chalder at a seminar, which must have been absolutely terrifying. Maybe they simply can’t afford the security measures that would be necessary to protect these brave clinicians from dangerous militant patients who might ask awkward questions or even stoop so low as to employ sarcasm as part of their advanced asymmetric psychological operations.

I applaud BACME for its bravery in standing firm in upholding its anti-woke policy of excluding patients and rejecting independent analysis of scientific evidence in decision making. Clinicians Know Best.

 

It will never cease to amaze me how Wessely managed to get up so high without ever having actually done anything for it. His roadmap is one of administrating various things, but as a psychiatrist he has contributed absolutely nothing worthwhile, in fact much of it is fraudulent at best, a disaster in many places.

He probably would have enjoyed being a vulture capitalist then a politician far more than this sorry excuse for a career. He probably would have done less harm this way.

 

Gawd. It's some Pythonesque mash-up of French Taunter and Spanish Inquisition.

"Allo. Whoo is eet?"

"I am Sir Tiredalot and these are my Knights of the Unsound Vagal. We wish to ask your master about his research."

"Well I'll ask him but I don't think he'll be very keen. He didn't expect a kind of..."

"Nobody expects a canny statistician."

"Mind your own business!"

"Amongst our weaponry are such diverse elements as... maths, logic, whiteboards, sarcasm and a fanatical devotion to scientific methodology."

"Run Away!"

 

brilliant