Who is Simon Wessely?

Discussion in 'Psychosomatic news - ME/CFS and Long Covid' started by Sly Saint, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. Invisible Woman

    Invisible Woman Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yeah, that's right he helped develop a treatment programme that made an awful lot of people worse and his work increased the stigma that patients face even today.

     
  2. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Oh lord, SW does know how to put it about doesn't he.
     
  3. Peter Trewhitt

    Peter Trewhitt Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I am quite happy to contribute to any crowd funding to cover the cost of the boat charter transporting him to the said desert island.
     
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    Daisymay Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    And preferably to a desert island in a galaxy far far away!
     
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  5. arewenearlythereyet

    arewenearlythereyet Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Well the publicity machine is out in force
     
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    Ariel Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Does this man do anything with his life other than maintaining media relationships?
     
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  8. Barry

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    But only so long as it is one-way.
     
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    Trish Moderator Staff Member

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    If anyone wants to hear what he says, BBC iplayer, about 20 minutes into the program for about 3 minutes. Something and nothing. The impression left with me was that it wasn't so much the death threats that stopped him working on CFS, but the unpleasant atmosphere around research and the stalking (?) and reporting researchers like him to authorities, or something. He said it wasn't patients, it was 'groups'. He said he still treats patients, and they are fine.

    I think he said something like he couldn't understand why people like him were the target, since they were the ones who believed CFS is real. And he claimed to have developed treatments that help, though there is no cure.

    The impression he clearly wanted to give was that he is one of the good guys, and came up against groups (unspecified) who were against his work for no good reason.
     
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  10. Invisible Woman

    Invisible Woman Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Yeah.....poor misunderstood Sir Simon.
     
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  11. Barry

    Barry Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Just a little rewrite of history all that is needed ...
     
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  12. Sean

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    Always been his line.
     
  13. EzzieD

    EzzieD Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Who are these 'groups' of which he speaks, if they are not patients? Sheesh.
     
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    So basically individual patients are lovely, because they just have 'hysteria'. If individual patients are allowed to talk to other patients, they develop 'mass hysteria', which is much worse and horrible and scary. It's like putting water on a mogwai.
     
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    So I guess that's when they become what Wessely called 'groups'. :rolleyes:
     
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  16. Wonko

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    Perfectly understandable, for someone who doesn't like or understand people, not even notional people.

    So not people per say, more the idea of people, seems to be what concerns him.

    In much the same way I am unusually happy to be around a beef burger, but even the idea of being in the middle of a stampeding herd of several billion cattle would concern me.

    He may be in the wrong job.

    After all, who would choose to have any involvement at all with loads of pre-burgers that have their own opinions, and can answer back and object to the very processes that couldn, if done by a professional, lead to them having success, as burgers.
     
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    Lucibee Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I've done a transcript:

     
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    Thanks for the above transcription @Lucibee.

    I really didn't want to listen, but it's interesting to read this.
     
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  19. Invisible Woman

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    Something else you got wrong then.

    What about the phrase (& I am paraphrasing here) "the only thing wrong with these people is their belief they have an illness called ME"?. Forgotten that have we?

    Subtle repositioning - it wasn't his patients who had a problem. No, it was the public. Because we believed these patients were ill and nobody else did.

    *snorts derisively*
     
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