Wesselys Mental Health review could also replace Mental Capacity Act

Sarah said:
The Independent review of the Mental Health Act: interim report was published on gov.uk yesterday:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...eview-of-the-mental-health-act-interim-report
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I've only read the bit about BAME people so far. Yet again, he looks like he's trying to please everybody at once. He dances around the institutionalised racism that means BAME people get sectioned more readily, but is happy to namedrop psychosocial factors (including the historic trauma of the slave trade, FFS)!

He's such a smug git...
 
Mental health survivors and service-users have been left “underwhelmed” by the interim report of a review into mental health legislation in England and Wales ordered by the prime minister.

One campaigner said it was clear that the review – chaired by Professor Simon Wessely –was “tinkering around the edges” of the Mental Health Act (MHA) and would not be recommending any “dramatic reform”.

She and others raised concerns that the review team appeared to have dismissed calls by the UN’s committee on the rights of persons with disabilities (CRPD) for the government to carry out major reform of mental health legislation that would bring the country into line with the UN disability convention.

And there was also frustration that the review appeared to be ignoring the importance of funding and “depleted” mental health services.
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https://www.disabilitynewsservice.c...is-just-tinkering-around-the-edges-of-reform/
 
The report appears to dismiss the kind of major reforms to mental health legislation called for by the UN’s CRPD, which said last year that the government should “repeal legislation and practices that authorise non-consensual involuntary, compulsory treatment” and the detention of disabled people “on the basis of actual or perceived impairment”.
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When the government appoints Sir Simon to conduct an independent review into mental health legislation, it's a bit like Donald Trump appointing a doctor to conduct an independent review of his health. Guess what? The UK's mental health provision is astonishingly excellent. Extraordinary. It's not as if Sir Simon has a track record of being more than willing to whore his ill-gotten credentials to the highest bidder, or that everybody can't already predict what the review is going to say, who's going to decide what goes in it, and who's going to sign it for them.
 
Well, reminds me a lot of what is happening in Germany...Some "experts" are asked for their "opinion" about the mental health status, "experts" give a certain advice (e.g. professional keepers instead of a trusted person an incapacitated victim can name, laws that make it easier to force people into hospitalization and treatment...), government says they will change certain laws, mental health survivor organisations etc. complain, certain laws are changed.

I cannot believe anymore this happens per chance after the developments that are taking place also in UK.

Edit: UN humans rights commission is always ignored.
 
What is the place of law? News from the second reading of the Mental Capacity Amendment Bill
July 16, 2018 Written by Alex RK

Lord O’Shaughnessy

"A few other issues were raised. Many noble Lords referred to “unsound mind” being an unhelpful and, frankly, out-of-date phrase. I do not disagree."

"Obviously, the system depends on the quality and independence of the reviews, assessments and authorisations that take place; that issue was particularly raised by the noble Lord, Lord Touhig, and the noble Baroness, Lady Hollins. There were also questions asked by the noble Baronesses, Lady Tyler, Lady Murphy, Lady Jolly and Lady Thornton, about the capacity of those carrying out assessments in local authority care homes, the NHS and so on to do them properly and in a way compliant with the law. I agree with noble Lords that in the coming weeks we will need to set out much more clearly how that independence support and those assessments will be staffed and provided, making sure that there are sufficient resources and proper training."

"The words “nightmare” and “disaster” have been used to describe the current system, and that is why we need to act now, but clearly we need to act in such a way that we do not create another problem further down the line."

http://www.mentalcapacitylawandpoli...eading-of-the-mental-capacity-amendment-bill/
 
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Original title: Prof Sir Simon Wessely was thanked by MP today, and thanks were repeated by Teresa May!

Presumably this will be in Hansard tomorrow.
So he even gets in the middle of Brexit.

ETA: comment was not about Brexit but the Mental Health Act
 
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Yes the MP who asked that PMQ was particularly smarmy and spoke in overblown terms about SW probably SW wrote the Q for him :sick:


As a politics geek I’m watching parliament channel quite a bit ATM. Just seen Carol M asking a question in the brexit debate about post study work visas for international students.
 
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Barry said:
Link? Or was it TV/Radio? I'm guessing he's being congratulated for saving the NHS pots of money by denying people much needed medical help under the guise of helping get people back to work and off benefits. Etc.
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Parliament TV link not yet ready, because it is a continuous recording of today’s work in the Main Chamber.
Presumably tomorrow, we will be able to edit the whole session down to just show this particular part (if we have the strength to watch!).
 
Transcript from Hansard (https://hansard.parliament.uk/commo...D2D86-28E1-40CC-A4E5-4DAC25733B52/Engagements):
Mr Charles Walker (Broxbourne) (Con)
I rise from the naughty corner, so I might need your protection, Mr Speaker.

I thank my right hon. Friend for her determined campaigning in the area of mental health, both as Home Secretary and now as Prime Minister. Will she join me in congratulating Sir Simon Wessely, who has just done a review of the Mental Health Act 1983? His findings will be published tomorrow. Sir Simon conducted the review with great good humour, compassion and dignity. Even though this House is so divided on so many issues, it should be united on this report.

The Prime Minister
My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Mental health, and how we look at the Mental Health Act, is an important issue that I hope will unite people across the House in recognition that we were right to have this review. I am certainly happy to congratulate Professor Sir Simon Wessely on the work that he has done. He has engaged with a wide range and large number of service users and their families, as well as health organisations and professionals, to help shape his recommendations. I certainly look forward to reading them. We obviously commit as a Government to coming forward with legislation in due course. This is an important area. We should all get behind this, because we need to ensure that we are delivering for those people in our country who suffer from mental health problems.
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I fear he is on his way to the House of Lords.
 
I found it a great shock to hear this said in the middle of (mostly) discussions about Brexit which like Nellie Pledge I have been watching intently.

It really does feel that he gets everywhere.
Terrifying question. Might he have political ambitions? Please delete that if you think it might give him ideas.
 
Robert 1973 said:
I fear he is on his way to the House of Lords.
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One of the occasions we lobbied our MP in HoC on May 12th Lady Mar came to meet with the ME demonstrators. Even then (must have been around 20 years ago?) when I suggested it would be Sir Simon soon, she said no, Lord Wessely. Very much afraid that time is now approaching. It will make life even more difficult for us, the only pro-ME person in the Lords is Lady Mar (I think), and Lord Winston is definitely against us from a speech he made in response to Lady Mar.
 
ladycatlover said:
Lord Winston is definitely against us from a speech he made in response to Lady Mar.
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I think Winston said what he was told to say in a briefing. If he ever looked at the issue again he may realize they made a fool of him and lied to him. But that would be his own fault for regurgitating their arguments and not going through the arguments himself.
 
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