Covid-19 vaccines and vaccinations

TigerLilea said:
Women are being seeing by their doctors and are being told that there is a connection to the vaccine. Just as people who develop neuropathy after having the vaccines are being told by neurologists that there is a connection to the vaccine.
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Maybe but on what basis? Doctors frequently give unfounded opinions as we all know.
I suspect that the great majority of cases of changes in periods never get fully explained so I don't think another cause can be ruled out. The commonest reasons are probably never known.

I wasn't aware that neuropathy was an issue with these vaccines either.

I suspect there is an awful lot of unreliable information around.
 
Jonathan Edwards said:
Maybe but on what basis? Doctors frequently give unfounded opinions as we all know.
I suspect that the great majority of cases of changes in periods never get fully explained so I don't think another cause can be ruled out. The commonest reasons are probably never known.

I wasn't aware that neuropathy was an issue with these vaccines either.

I suspect there is an awful lot of unreliable information around.
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I think that sometimes doctors just don't want to admit that things like this can happen. Thankfully the adverse reactions to vaccines is being studied now because of the number of people around the world who are reporting them.
 
TigerLilea said:
I think that sometimes doctors just don't want to admit that things like this can happen.
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But it seems they are admitting it, without evidence?

There is absolutely no doubt that these sorts of things do happen - nobody should deny that - but making attributions without firm evidence is unhelpful and impossible in the individual case unless the reaction is an otherwise very rare event. The NIPH study shows that changes in periods are no way rare events so telling people there is a link seems to me irresponsible.
 
Sean said:
And is why I am doing everything possible to avoid getting it.
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As am I but avoiding getting it becomes more difficult when covid restrictions are all removed as it looks as if they may be in UK before the end of this month.

Which brings us to antivirals and other medication for covid referred to by Dr Shepherd in the statement a couple of posts back.

"Information on Antivirals for Covid19

You might have ME/CFS and be unvaccinated due to a medical exemption or by choice and wonder if you will be prescribed antivirals should you catch Covid-19." (quoted from MEA statement above)

I already have a priority PCR test (sent unsolicited) to be taken if I have covid symptoms so I am interested in the treatments that might be offered. There are two available currently on the NHS to be decided between following a conversation with a specialist doctor.
One is an antiviral, Molnupiravir which is taken in tablet form, and the other, a monoclonal antibody, Sotrovimab which is taken as an infusion in a health facility. I immediately turned to reading about side effects. Until the covid vaccines I had no history of side effects to medication apart from one antibiotic over 50 years ago, but my severe adverse reactions to both covid vaccines has made me very nervous.

Sotrovimab lists possible angioedema and anaphylaxis ( it contains histidine), and other less severe allergic reactions.
Molnupiravir lists nausea, diarroeha, dizziness, headache, possible rashes.

I couldn't find any efficacy information for either on the NHS site.

From memory I seem to remember earlier data showing paxlovid (a

pfizer treatment) not yet listed as available) as being particularly efficacious and molnupiravir as much less so. I don't think sotrovimab will be an option for me since I reacted to AZ1 with angioedema recurring over several months, " almost anaphylaxis" being the medical description.

I hope there will be more options soon. Having only recently put a toe into going out, it is beginning to feel very unsafe again.
 
Jonathan Edwards said:
Maybe but on what basis? Doctors frequently give unfounded opinions as we all know.
I suspect that the great majority of cases of changes in periods never get fully explained so I don't think another cause can be ruled out. The commonest reasons are probably never known.

I wasn't aware that neuropathy was an issue with these vaccines either.

I suspect there is an awful lot of unreliable information around.
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after developing flaccid, shuffling legs and a tendency to drop things after the second vaccine shot, I recall being told that neuropathy was a side effect. I don’t remember where I heard that, whether it was an MD expressing their opinion or something off the Internet. My GP did refer me to a neurologist, something that I’ve never occurred to me.

I had no idea of that before getting the vaccine, and wish I had known.
That of course is not a repeatable controlled trial but in the absence of such studies an accumulation of anecdotes is all we have to work with.
I was very surprised, and simply assumed that this vaccine would have no different side effects on me than the annual flu shot. That was a naïve assumption.
 
I do wonder how my immune system is going to react when I do eventually get Covid, it is going to be hard to avoid especially living so close to other tenants.

I hope the Covid vaccine works for me like my childhood vaccines for measles, mumps and chickenpox, others. I can't remember ever being sick with any as a child. I remember my mother telling me I had mumps when I was very young and I was puzzled when she put me to bed. I felt very well with nothing wrong with me but did as my mother asked. I'll never forget how well I felt and thought it strange that she said had mumps.

I'm hoping the Covid vaccines will work the same for me but are the childhood vaccines better at having no symptoms at all than the Covid ones?
 
Rosie said:
I'm hoping the Covid vaccines will work the same for me but are the childhood vaccines better at having no symptoms at all than the Covid ones?
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I think it might have been someone on this group explained that vaccines for respiratory viruses are not long lasting. I know of several people now who are triple vaxxed but still got covid. A friend of mine, both of her sons who are triple vaxxed are on the second round of having covid. So even three vaccines and a natural immunity from the first infection didn't help them.
 
A friend who is immunocompromised has just been called for her fourth vaccine which she will take because she hasn't had an adverse reaction to the first three.

I am due my booster (a fourth after an additional primary vaccine) but my GP has said it is too risky after previous reactions. I was naive too. I just assumed I would be fine after all previous vs being without incident.

For those following covid treatments, currently available to the 1.3 million identified as 'severely vulnerable', the nhs has added a third treatment option, paxlovid, which has high efficacy. There seem to be a large number of drugs that conflict with it however so it won't be an option for all. It will be interesting to see how this system operates. From memory the programme began on 10th February.
 
Speaking of which, there hasn't been a more recent survey of this? Even better would be a study but it would never get funded. The only one I remember happened somewhere after people were first getting vaccinated.

I stopped at 2, the odds are low but I do not want to deteriorate beyond my state and it's still not clear at all what the risks are. Knowing there will be zero help if I deteriorate, it's hard to decide not knowing if the odds are tiny or not.
 
rvallee said:
Speaking of which, there hasn't been a more recent survey of this? Even better would be a study but it would never get funded. The only one I remember happened somewhere after people were first getting vaccinated.
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I believe this is the most recent one? Published Dec 2, 2021. Data collected between July 14, 2021 and October 22, 2021.

https://youandmeregistry.com/after-...s-more-likely-to-worsen-compared-to-controls/

And this one, published in November, 2021.

https://anzmes.org.nz/tag/survey/

(There are still a couple of ongoing informal patient-led surveys out there, but unfortunately there are very few respondents nowadays compared to back when people were first getting vaccinated.)
 
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A new Covid vaccine has been approved for use in the UK by regulators.

It is manufactured by Valneva, using more traditional technology - similar to how polio and flu shots are made.

It contains a whole copy of the virus which has been inactivated, so that it can't cause the disease but does teach the body how to fight it.

The UK was due to receive 100 million doses of the jab, but the government cancelled the deal in September due to a "breach of obligations".

The French company strenuously denied the government's accusation.

Dr June Raine, chief executive of the UK's Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency, said the approval followed "a rigorous review of the safety, quality and effectiveness of this vaccine".

Valneva Covid vaccine approved for use in UK - BBC News
 
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MeSci said:
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A new Covid vaccine has been approved for use in the UK by regulators.

It is manufactured by Valneva, using more traditional technology - similar to how polio and flu shots are made.

It contains a whole copy of the virus which has been inactivated, so that it can't cause the disease but does teach the body how to fight it.
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I wonder if this will come to Canada? After my experience with the mRNA vaccines this past year I really don't want one of those again if I can help it.
 
TigerLilea said:
I wonder if this will come to Canada? After my experience with the mRNA vaccines this past year I really don't want one of those again if I can help it.
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are you recovered a bit at least? i hope so.

i was under the impression that you thought it was the spike protein and not the type of vaccine or so. perhaps i was mistaken?
 
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