Covid-19 vaccines and vaccinations

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  1. Mij

    Mij Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    https://www.healthline.com/health-n...#Not-the-first-time-vaccine-mixing-is-attempt

    I've read that they've also had better outcomes mixing vaccines for the Ebola virus.
     
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    Mij Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    Delayed 2nd Pfizer/BioNTech shot boosts antibodies in elderly; COVID-19 obesity risk higher for men (msn.com)
     
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  4. Yessica

    Yessica Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I have questions about all this.

    CDC Just Clarified These Mask Rules for Everyone

    Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the CDC. Bolding and sentence breaks mine.

    I have questions about each of those bolded points.

    "Science really evolved in two weeks", did it to the point that this is a good decision to do at this very moment?

    The vaccines are working against our variants. Is that true?

    If you're vaccinated you can't transmit that infection to other people. Is this true tooo?

    "We're lucky to be there with the science that we have" - hmmm.

    Anyone up-to-date on the science on the the questions I have below that she speaks of below? What is being said and not being said and considered.


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...ied-these-mask-rules-for-everyone/ss-BB1gNhdv

    Edit: punctuation
     
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  5. MeSci

    MeSci Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    No, I recall hearing that being vaccinated does not prevent transmission. For example (from 28 April):

    Covid: One dose of vaccine halves transmission - study - BBC News

    University of Warwick epidemiologist Mike Tildesley says "the evidence is suggesting they (vaccinations) are providing at least some level of protection from passing the virus on if you do get infected"
     
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    Mij Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41...ce=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=orga
     
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    Perrier Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    And I wonder if we might learn something about ME through the screening?
     
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    Sisyphus Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I don’t like to descend into cynicism, but at this point I will assume that medicine will strive mightily to avoid learning anything about our disease.
     
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    JaneL Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I’m curious to know what those of you who have had 2 doses of vaccines are now comfortable doing? Have you changed your behaviour much since having two doses? It’s been 2 weeks since my second dose of vaccine and I’m undecided about what to do. I’m feeling slightly under pressure to mix with family but not sure I’m comfortable with that yet (especially now they’re all relaxing their behaviours considerably, in line with the relaxation of the lockdown rules)...
     
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    It's 3 weeks since both my daughter and I had our second dose of AZ. We currently have a family member, who lives too far away for just dropping in, staying for 3 days. They have also had both doses (of Pfizer vaccine), live alone and have only been mixing with others outdoors, and did a lateral flow test the day before coming here. I'm not entirely comfortable with it, but think I have to get used to it or we'll never see anyone else, since we are too sick go out and visit people and socialise outdoors.
     
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    I am 5 weeks post AZ2. I was affected so severely by the vaccine that my life is more restricted than prior to vaccination.

    I have seen my daughter and family outside for a picnic. The noise from that event a couple of weeks ago ( there was a drum playing in the distance which caused me to retreat to the car) caused a severe relapse: dreadful tinnitus, inability to tolerate being spoken to, inability to use phone.

    I am still nowhere near my prior level.
     
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    JaneL Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    So sorry to hear that @Binkie4 :(. I hope you get some improvement soon. xx
     
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    I read this morning that 3 seniors living in LTC homes died after contracting variant (S. Africa) after being fully vaccinated.

    I'm concerned that some pwME might not have a robust immunity response to x2 vaccines.
     
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    @Binkie4 how awful :( i hope it all improves very soon

    My bolding. Yes this is also going to be my approach. I cant carry on in total isolation & once i am double dosed, i will be mixing (sensibly) with those who are also doubled dosed and tested. For those who are living/working in front line occupations i will be doing masks & distancing inside though
     
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    My close friend is electing not to get vaccinated. She is in her 40s and read something her friends sent her, which I refused to delve into. I stick to the Twiv podcasts by virologists, immunologists, and an MD, where papers are critiqued on the issues.

    I feel very strongly pro-vaccination and I wonder what we will talk about now, how to skirt the issue.

    Our community risk is labeled moderate risk, though restaurants and movie theaters are open with restrictions.
     
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    It is 3 weeks since my second jab. I don't get out much but I had to go for a blood test so I took the opportunity to go shopping. It was about 11.00 o'clock in the morning so everything was quiet. I visited 2 shops and got some hand cream and 6 t shirts for warm days so I was pleased.

    The vaccine helped make the decision (I did not have a problem with either injection) but the number of cases is low in my area so I wanted to get some clothes before they started going up again. they are bound to increase as restrictions are eased.
     
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    @JaneL @JemPD - thank you for the expressions of sympathy. After two weeks I am now beginning to improve.
    The inability to tolerate Mr B's voice in the room with me was particularly frightening. I now have a set of Bose earphones and am learning when they can help.
     
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    Rain Senior Member (Voting Rights)

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    I am planning to think of my healthy friends and family as (most likely) not carriers of the virus after 2 mrna doses. I don’t trust my vaccination alone.
     
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