Covid-19 vaccines and vaccinations

I was turned down for Novavax. In the U.S. it is not yet approved as a booster. I had thought since my original J&J was way back in April of last year that this stipulation would not apply.

A couple of weeks after a minor procedure at my ENT's office next week, I'll get the J&J again. Disappointed about the Novavax, though.

 

But those who are affected including the severely affected have not been recognised or supported. Are you saying that you are willing to sacrifice the few to protect the many?


edit: Sorry but I am away on holiday with family arriving imminently so will be unable to pursue further discussion if it takes place.

 

I have to admit that I don't fully support the strategy as long as part of it includes deliberately silencing facts about vaccine injuries and publicly and repeatedly minimizing/brushing off those affected (in the media, info published by the government, in the public conversation, and so on) because the people who created and are maintaining the strategy are afraid that "the masses" won't get vaccinated if these things are recognised and talked about openly.

I believe everyone deserves the facts, in order to make an informed decision. It's about consent.

To clarify, I believe it is wrong to treat the public as if we can't handle the facts/truth, can't be trusted with information and data.

As far as I can tell, the data so far clearly shows that the risk is very very small, but it's not completely non-existent. I seriously doubt the data would stop "the masses" from getting vaccinated. I honestly don't see the problem, why not just be open about it in public communication etc? I don't see anything "scary" about this data?

It's when they start withholding and deliberately trying to silence/downplay facts that are essential for informed consent, that the red flags start popping up for me. Sharing this data shouldn't be a big deal at all.

If history teaches us anything, it's that as long as part of the strategy is to pretend that there's no problem and no risk as all, those affected won't be recognised nor supported.

 

I am concerned about the lack of recognition of serious effects on a significant number of people who took the vaccine. It felt as if there was a deliberate policy of refusing to admit that a negative reaction was a result of the vaccine, and people were strongly encouraged to continue with the vaccination programme.
I speak from personal experience: I took 3 vaccines and two out of three caused me significant problems.

I found it very difficult to report the problem via the yellow card system although after great efforts I succeeded in getting a code number. There has been no follow up.

This does not seem to be a fair way to establish the risks and benefits of the vaccine programme, so as to enable people's consent to be fully informed. Nor do we know that those who have been severely impacted have been / will be fully cared for, treated and compensated if necessary.

 

There are always going to be adverse reactions to vaccines no matter which vaccine it is. It has always been that way. The difference this time is that with covid, everyone around the world is being vaccinated at the same time so it is much more noticeable the number of us getting adverse reactions all within the same time frame. However, I'm betting that the total number of us is probably very low percentage wise and probably no different than with any other vaccine.

I'm one of those people who has been fighting with adverse reactions for the past 16 months, however, I don't consider the vaccines a disaster. They have saved millions of lives and kept people off of ventilators in the ICU. It's true that for most of us with adverse reactions the medical system has been a complete failure and we are on our own to figure this out. Fortunately it seems a good percentage of us are eventually recovering even if it takes a year or more.

 

It's true that those of us with long term adverse reactions to the covid vaccine aren't being recognized or supported for the most part, however, adverse reactions happen with all vaccines. They can't stop vaccinating all people because a very small percentage of us will possibly have these reactions.

 

BioNTech and Pfizer to begin clinical trial of vaccine for new Covid variants

https://www.ft.com/content/b6825ee8-3631-4f1c-a4e0-119802c7bb7d

 

Hah! I've managed to get past the paywall on that one. Result!

I also noticed that if you really want to you can sign up to a "We’ll send you a myFT Daily Digest email rounding up the latest Covid-19 vaccines news every morning."

 

Merged thread
BBC: UK approves Moderna's Omicron Covid booster'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-62548336

 

437 people tested for a national roll out ....
Did these include pregnant women and others with health issues .....

 

Ooh good. What level of effectiveness against symptomatic infection are the experts expecting from this?

 

Constant messaging for the last year+: the pandemic is over, everything is back to normal, give the stinkeye to anyone still in need of protection.

Oh, yeah, people will definitely take their boosters now. Brilliant messaging, geniuses. Lower intakes of other vaccines has already started, and because the messaging has been so awful from medical authorities, the pandemic deniers are actually capitalizing on it and adding it to their nonsense about immunity debt and other nonsense about how the focus on one vaccine is, somehow, responsible for that.

The playbook of pandemics has been set alight, not a single principle has actually been followed, it's all lip service. But, sure, people will take their boosters for a virus that's "just a cold" now that the pandemic is over. Pffft.

Public health has been made ineffective for years because of the obsessive focus with managing perceptions and behaviors, instead of telling the plain truth. And right alongside concurrent pandemics, because it would only be half the disaster it is if the spread of not just one but two viruses had not been enabled by disastrous mishandling.

 

Already out of date before it’s even launched. That strain of Omicron is superseded by others.

 

I saw this morning that Novavax has applied for FDA approval as a booster in the U.S. It was recently approved as a primary vaccine, but not as a booster.

https://www.reuters.com/business/he...thorization-covid-vaccine-booster-2022-08-15/

 

That is not enough people to approve for a population release. I know full well they didn't try it on severe long haulers or ME/CFS sufferers or anyone that is already ill. A vaccine for a disease that no longer circulates that has been gone for 7 months and we are now 3 variants down the line and maybe a fourth before we get it! I am not sure I am going to take PEM to get this like I did all the other shots, I am not seeing the point.

 

I will take the vaccine if I get a home visit.

 

50+ age group only alongside those classified clinically vulnerable by the JVCI, ME/CFS patients weren't included in that before so I doubt they are now.